Move over Nvidia, ATI is king for price/performance!

i\'d like to know where you got that 77% figure at, seems a little bloated...i\'m not gonna buy a nvidia card just because it\'s better at one game only at the highest settings.

another quote from that benchmark

Bottom line is this; whoever has the fastest video card with image quality to match when DOOM 3 hits retail shelves "wins".

highest settings?  nvidia > ati in doom 3 on ALL settings

nvidia will continue to dominate the video card markets, both business and personal.  soully, has AMD made an impact yet?

if you don\'t recognize the [H] in the pic above for where i got the quotes, you  don\'t belong in this conversation.

ALSO, doom3 will be THE PC title to base ALL banchmarks off of.  one title!?  do you have any idea how many companies are dying to lease the doom3 engine for thier games?  dozens have been made from the quake 3 engine...sheesh

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sure has... How else do u think you\'d know about it...  I wonder..
Why else has intel dropped their prices.. Competition maybe.. I wonder...

Nvidia will sell untill the Gf4 series is no longer worth buying. Their new cards.. that\'s another story. Do u truly think in 2 - 3 years people will be buying the old FX cards, or the Old Radeon 9800 cards?

Hard choice for you mm i\'m sure :rolleyes:

I\'m not against nvidia. I\'m simply saying if they continue to BS and build crappy cards compared to there competition. They won\'t have anything left in 2 years worth buying.

Think of Nvidia as how u think of AMD.   Not worth the price u pay for second best eh


As for the quake 3 engine. Seems lately more companies are using the UT engines.

soully, look at those benchmarks and tell me nvidia is second best

this coming from a guy who still thinks nvidia put 3dfx out of business  :rolleyes:

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This coming from a guy who thinks 3dfx OWNZ nvidia.  When nvidia ended up OWNING 3dfx :rolleyes:


1 game.. wow.

soully, honestly bro, i don\'t know why i waste my time talking to such ignorance with you

1.  i never in my life said 3dfx would own nvidia.  3dfx possessed the BEST implimentation of Glide ever.  nothing nvidia had at the time could compete with 3dfx on the Glide format.  3dfx banked thier entire extistance that OpenGL would be a fad, and unfortunately for them, it wasnt.  hence nvidia becoming number 1, and the death of Glide.  has any game since quake2 featured Glide?  nevermind, you have no clue what i\'m talking about.

2.  you are a complete fool for repeatedly saying one game.  how many games featured the heavily licensed quake 3 engine?  thats right, dozens, and more and more are released all the time.  doom 3 will be THE hottest PC game to be released in recent years.  

it disgusts me to think after all this time, you have little idea.  i makes me think you disagree with me purposely to waste my time when you should know damn well better

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Originally posted by mm
soully, honestly bro, i don\'t know why i waste my time talking to such ignorance with you

1.  i never in my life said 3dfx would own nvidia.  3dfx possessed the BEST implimentation of Glide ever.  nothing nvidia had at the time could compete with 3dfx on the Glide format.  3dfx banked thier entire extistance that OpenGL would be a fad, and unfortunately for them, it wasnt.  hence nvidia becoming number 1, and the death of Glide.  has any game since quake2 featured Glide?  nevermind, you have no clue what i\'m talking about.

You have no ****en clue. Opengl was and still is highly supported. 3dfx died once they brought out STB. They ended up screwing their custormer base, had delays in manufacturing and releasing cards, the  Voodoo5 6000 series of cards had shit loads of problems with certain motherboards and ended up cancelled, while all this was happening they were losing lots of money, they tried to build new chips that didn\'t come to life and in the end they ended up bankrupt. While Nvidia was still going strong selling their Geforce 1/2 series of cards

2.  you are a complete fool for repeatedly saying one game.  how many games featured the heavily licensed quake 3 engine?  thats right, dozens, and more and more are released all the time.  doom 3 will be THE hottest PC game to be released in recent years.  

 1 engine. That\'s all it is, even if it hundreds of games get made from it. not every developer will use it the SAME as id software. Don\'t forget there are other engines, UT etc...
Lately i\'ve seen more engines using the UTs game engines over the quakes, ohh and don\'t let the "Mtv Generation" hype fool u. It could be a shitty, good looking game.... That doesn\'t mean it is though   Even so, not every game will be FPS. The Doom3 engine will be used mainly on FPS games.  

it disgusts me to think after all this time, you have little idea.  i makes me think you disagree with me purposely to waste my time when you should know damn well better

Your bias views are hardly facts mm. You\'ve posted 1 game that tops ati. I wonder how many games i can post of ATI\'s new cards that tops Nvidias. Maybe they\'ve rigged the results just like they did with 3dmark2003.. Wouldn\'t surprise me.

Opengl was and still is highly supported

i\'m stopped reading there and not reading anything else you say in this thread.  this proves you are twisting what i said merely to produce an argument.  you are a troll

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3dfx banked thier entire extistance that OpenGL would be a fad, and unfortunately for them, it wasnt. hence nvidia becoming number 1, and the death of Glide. has any game since quake2 featured Glide? nevermind, you have no clue what i\'m talking about.

Glide is dead, opengl is not.

Ignore all u want, you always do.

nuff said.



More news ahead.. Dawn demo runs better on ATI card with OpenGL wrapper]

Ouch!!

i understand your from australia, and perhaps the education system down there isn\'t quite so good

but...READ THE QUOTE!!  I ALREADY STATED THAT GLIDE IS DEAD, AND THE REASON IT IS DEAD. NVIDIA DID NOT EVEN SUPPORT GLIDE!!!!  3DFX FOCUSED PURELY ON THIER SUPERIOR GLIDE DEVELOPMENT AND IT COST THEM THIER BUSINESS WHEN THE API WAS ABANDONED


sigh....

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What part of Glide is dead, and opengl is not didn\'t u get?
You said Glide is dead, I totally agree. You said opengl was fad. Yet it still remains.

dude, you can\'t read.  admit it

3dfx banked thier entire extistance that OpenGL would be a fad, and unfortunately for them, it wasnt. hence nvidia becoming number 1, and the death of Glide.

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They based Their Entire extistance on GLIDE, not opengl.  If so, they would still be around wouldn\'t they.  
Please stop attacking me directly. That\'s a sign of a poor debater and a total asshole.

how can i debate with someone who cannot understand basic english?  like i said, you purposely twist what i say to make an argument.

i stated 4 times now that they bet the farm that openGL would be a fad, and it wasn\'t

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They bet GLIDE would be a fad.. Opengl is still highly supported and not just in gaming. 3dfx GLIDE is what killed them mm, not opengl. If they put everything into supporting opengl.  They would still be around.  Opengl was not developed by 3dfx.