Move over Nvidia, ATI is king for price/performance!

Yawn, like i SAID ATI\'s second gen dx9 card will be coming out this summer, while NVIDIA will have to cling to there 5900. Keep in mind mm, ATI is ahead of schedule, it\'s pointless to use the comparison of NV\'s newest card when ATI\'s is just around the corner, we will see then who has the best doom3 performance at high res!

Other than that, you keep insisting that NV will dominate the market, yet we have made it very clear that the market is the mid level cards and that is where NVIDIOT\'s get there asses kicked right up the ass.

Personally if you feel like waisting your money on the 5900 ultra then be my guest, but I\'d rather buy the mid level card and overclock it to match the top end ones.

As far as I can see, your point about NV is not concrete, where were you when those limited, delayed, overpriced 5600 ultra\'s were burning up cause the geniuses over at NVIDIA ****ed up big time in there drivers causing the card to run at 3d accelerative mode when the windows screen saver was active. What kind of morons release a top end card that kills itself? Nvidia is surly destroying there reputation.

It\'s shame all those innocent people out there that buy the fx thinking that there mid level card is top notch quality/performance for what they paid for. Hope they don\'t see there friends ATI card cause we could up with a major epidemic of young adolescents with strokes, LOL!

Hahaha Soully... I am not against in this thread, but mm did say it 3 times... 3dfx banked that OpenGL would be a fad.

Anyway, nvidia, you inspired me... I am now the proud owner of a Radeon 9700 Pro for $270 total.  Traded in the 9500 today since I had some extra cash (extra 70 on top of the returned 9500)...

Glad to hear Giga! Damn lucky chum, I\'m still stuck here with my Ti4600, but keep in mind it does well still with today\'s games,

Here are my speed settings if your interested.

Defalut

Core Clock Speed: 300mhz
memorey Speed: 648mhz


Overclocked speed(these speeds are only possible if volt moded)

Core Clock Speed: 345mhz
Memeory Speed: 720mhz

None the less the Anastrophic Filtering is piss shitty on this card, not even worth turning on. AA is nowhere near your lovely 9700 and it takes a big hit on performance, so I leave my AA on 2x(qun)

GOT TO HAVE AA when playing games.

Yeah AA is becoming a must in most games from what I have read.  Your card still kicks ass... I probably would have gotten the same if I had revamped my computer a year ago.  I did look for some Ti4600\'s but they are becoming very hard to find.  The 9700 only beats the 4600 by a few fps and even falls behind on a few games, but like you said the AA and the Anastrophic Filtering are what sets the 9700 apart.  Still though... if not for these new ATI cards (9500, 9700, 9800) I still think the 4600 is one of the best buys out there if you can find one.

Yeah AA is becoming a must

How does one play without it? I mean without AA the game looks jaggy even in high-res. AA cleans the image up.

I still think the 4600 is one of the best buys out there if you can find one.

I agree, that\'s why I am waiting till september to buy a NEW GRAPHIC\'S CARD for HALF-LIFE 2, DOOM etc...

The 9700pro all around kicks my Geforce4\'s ass trust me.

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sigh.....
why don\'t people understand that 3dfx glide and opengl are 2 different things.. Opengl is still highly used It was developed by silicon Graphics.. Not 3dfx..  Glide was what 3dfx Banked on and developed, opengl came in second in their book. They didn\'t even have native opengl drivers till Voodoo2. When glide (3dfx\'s chipset drivers) died out (mainly because of 3dfx\'s screw ups) 3dfx got screwed. That simple...  Let me make it clearer
DirectX = M$
OpenGL = Silicon Graphics / M$
Glide = 3dfx

That is what mm was saying LOL... You both said the same thing just in different ways.

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/me pulls out hair.... ARGHHHH!!!!


mm says 3dfx thought opengl was going to be the fad.. It wasn\'t opengl they were counting on. It was there OWN 3dfx Chipset. (glide being the chipset drivers)  Opengl is a totaly different driver. It wasn\'t even in the first voodoo card driver set. People were using 3rd party drivers to play opengl games...  Think of it this way..  Imagine 3dfx counting on Direct3D to be the FAD, and not even thinking twice about their own 3DFX Chipsets. It wouldn\'t happen....

glide being the chipset drivers

wtf, why must you always say something to make to stop reading yer posts

Glide was an API, not a fukn chipset driver

:rolleyes:

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Yea, glide being the API for the 3dfx chipset.. I don\'t mean it in a way  to update the chipset itself, i mean it only works for the chipset..



Go play your opengl based voodoo card :rolleyes:

Yea, glide being the API for the 3dfx chipset

please, go find a clue.  it\'s terrible that you work in the PC industry and don\'t know what am API is

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mm, don\'t be such a knob..  I don\'t know what a API is :rolleyes: u seem to think glide relates to everything else but 3dfx...
Can you use glide on any other card that\'s not based on the 3dfx voodoo chipset?

no.   Not without some sort of wrapper.


enough said.

i swear you either can\'t read, or refuse to read what i write

direct3D, openGL, Glide, CG...these are API\'s
they are how applications interface with hardware, and other applications

nvidia choose not to support Glide AT ALL.  hence, what i said much earlier

so please, expand your knowledge before trying to contest what i say

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lol..Thanks for explaining what APIs are.. I didn\'t know they were libaries containing function calls to graphics routines. if that\'s what you\'ll trying to say.... :rolleyes:

bah, STILL don\'t understand what that is

you do a fukn google search, and now think you know something?

you make me laugh

I didn\'t know they were libaries containing function calls to graphics routines.

which is EXACTLY what i said.  i broke it down into simple text so you would understand

don\'t even bother replying anymore soully