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Offline SirMystiq

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« on: December 16, 2003, 06:35:35 PM »
Today during class I was arguing with this white girl friend of mine. I have to say she is white because it\'s important to the story. Anyways, I was telling my friend David, who is also white, that it\'s good that he is taking Spanish because he would probably be able to go further in this country. The girl looked at me and said "no" She said "we\'re in America they should learn English" Yes and no, technically we\'re in North America, the U.S. isn\'t "America" I completely disagree with the "they should learn English" comment. I didn\'t read about the European settlers trying to commute with the Native Americans and try to learn their language. She said "we conquered them" No they claimed the land, and "lied to the people and stole it from them", I said. She just made the "no" motion with her head because she knows it\'s true. I don\'t believe that people should be made to learn Spanish. I do believe that most people have no choice. You can whine all you want but the truth of the matter is that there are alot more Spanish speaking people in this country than ever before. And if you even want to think about getting a better job or doing something different, knowing Spanish will help you plenty of times im sure.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2003, 06:38:46 PM »
Knowing Spanish will make it easier to talk to Spanish speaking people... Just like learning English will make it easier for Spanish speaking people to talk to me cause I sure as hell ain\'t learnin\' no Spanish!



that\'s it!





pretty basic.
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2003, 06:43:41 PM »
Yes that\'s true.

But, stay with me in reality, if you go to your neighborhood wal-mart. What do you see?  I also made a point about careers. Alot of Spanish speaking people learn English. They go on to have better jobs that those who don\'t. But then, the ones who don\'t know English turn out to be your customers. Who has the advantage, the Bilingual or Monolingual?
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2003, 07:32:39 PM »
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Yes that\'s true.

But, stay with me in reality, if you go to your neighborhood wal-mart. What do you see?  I also made a point about careers. Alot of Spanish speaking people learn English. They go on to have better jobs that those who don\'t. But then, the ones who don\'t know English turn out to be your customers. Who has the advantage, the Bilingual or Monolingual?



i agree. at my job when i check out some of job postings..besides them making sure you have a masters ,bachelor degree in everything..they also state "and bilingual a plus" ..it\'s called diversity.;)
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2003, 08:29:22 PM »
English > Spanish

America > Mexico

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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2003, 09:00:22 PM »
Fat people > america.




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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2003, 09:21:44 PM »
I was at a youth forum for local high schools and an argument similar to this arose...

...Some pompous white boy said that they should be required to learn English... I argued that that was incredibly unfair, and if they needed to learn English they would make the initiative to learn it themselves.

Good thing I know Spanish... You need it here in the west.

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2003, 09:59:25 PM »
Que bueno, me gusta ver que hay personas que todavia saben valorar lo que es la vida.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2003, 10:02:52 PM »
That is another thing though. If nobody was learning Spanish they would HAVE to learn English. But everwhere and everyone seems to be "adapting" and everywhere you go you meet the "buenos dia" white guy.
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2003, 10:13:14 PM »
Yeah... So many Americans are so stupid... I could just hear them crying and moaning if they had to go to another country and be forced to learn another language.

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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2003, 10:43:34 PM »
Have you seen the trailer for that movie about the end of the world. Day after next or something. It shows all the Mexican Government "had to close down its border due to all the US refugees flooding the country"
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2003, 11:16:15 PM »
this reminds me that in Highschool I had an A in Spanish and a D in English (the teacher hated me, beyond this year I ACEd every year of English), kind of ironic for a dirty White Boy

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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2003, 03:16:07 AM »
Well, I don\'t think it\'s unfair to demand that those who want to benefit from X society learns the language spoken in X. If they wanted to speak Spanish, then they could have stayed in Mexico or whereever. If you don\'t want to adapt, then stay home in your own goatfcuker country.
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2003, 03:35:59 AM »
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Well, I don\'t think it\'s unfair to demand that those who want to benefit from X society learns the language spoken in X. If they wanted to speak Spanish, then they could have stayed in Mexico or whereever. If you don\'t want to adapt, then stay home in your own goatfcuker country.



Thank you.
I work where a lot of spanish / mexican\'s have recently took up work and we can\'t understand them and I refuse to pay for spanish classes, just to understand them.
They came over here - they should learn the native language here.

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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2003, 04:42:38 AM »
My son knows 1 to 10 in spanish.  Funny because now he never counts in english.  It\'s always spanish.

I have absolutely no sympathy for spanish people in this country who dont know english.  Or I should rephrase that.  Spanish people who make no effort to learn any english.  If I moved to France I would bust my ass to learn as much French as I could immediately.

Also, it makes a lot more sense to take Japanese than Spanish. There are a billion + people on the world who know Japanese.  That would be a huge + on your resume if you got into the financial market or the trade industry.

No offense, but I don\'t aspire to talk to the patrons at friggen Walmart.
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