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I think if you immigrate (or run across the border) you ought to learn English eventually. But here in Texas and probably California you should learn a little Spanish too.


Giga, you verbally KO\'ed SirMystic btw

Originally posted by SirMystiq
My point is that even though there are alot of people who think this way, "you\'re in America LEARN ENGLISH!!" they are still the minoroty when you ask the general public.  

I\'m pretty sure if I went around and asked 100 people around here about 97 of them would have that approach.

Sometimes I wonder if he really lives in the US...

Originally posted by Seed_Of_Evil


- Invade the land without any logical reason
- Killed the people they wanted
- Picked up the gold
- Established a domain
- Came back home

Now in Irak, USA does the following:

- Invade the land without any logical reason
- Kills the people they want
- Picks up the black gold
- Establishes a domain
- Comes back home

 

I dont know about no logical reason for the US-Iraq thing, but you know history repeats it\'s self.  This is kind of an indirect way.

[videoholic]

Originally posted by SirMystiq
in America LEARN ENGLISH!!" they are still the minoroty when you ask the general public. Will many people agree on it? Yes. But what matters is what is going on outside their little world, the US is changing...shouln\'t it\'s citizens?

Maybe in your little nook of america.  Anyone that I know that speaks English feels exactly how I do.  If our taxes support your immigrant ass, leran the friggen language.

[SirMystiq]

No, maybe it\'s because I live in a place where Spanish is the predominant language...I don\'t know that might be the reason. Have you guys tried asking white people that are trying to learn the language or know it? If you go ask everysingle white person that doesn\'t know the language...yeah they\'re going to agree with you. I can safely say that about 80 percent of the white people that go to my school, live in my neighborhood, and work at places around here speak spanish, or they attempt to speack spanish, or they know cuss words in Spanish.

80%? Sorry no. I know how to speak Spanish, my dad does, and so does my sister. And they will agree that if you immigrate or run across the border, you should learn to speak English.

Hey Mystic, just out of curiosity did you agree with Gonzalez to require Spanish textbooks for public schools?

[SirMystiq]

Yes and No...Yes for all the kid\'s that just got into this country...and NO for like kid\'s that had their time to learn it. Yes if there are no bilingual classes. How are little kids supposed to learn English that way?

By only being surrounded by English materials...

The easiest way for one to learn a countries lanuage is to be immersed in it every day.  My old german teacher said he never was that great with german till he lived there for 6 months, hell he started dreaming in german.

[videoholic]

I write: "Maybe in your little nook of america. Anyone that I know that speaks English feels exactly how I do."


ANd you write:

Originally posted by SirMystiq
No, maybe it\'s because I live in a place where Spanish is the predominant language...

Way to dissagree agreeingly...

It is all based upon the people you are around and live near.  That is why you feel like Spanish is a needed language.  And it is for you because of where you live.  Most of the country is English.  I\'m willing to bet that if you polled english speaking people in the US, at least 90% of them would have no sympathy for Spanish speaking people who have lived in this country for a decent amount of time.  

THe problem is that people come into this country and live in the pockets they are comfortable in.  The spanish speaking communities.

They have no need to learn english.  Here in Tampa most of the communities like this are vegetable pickers (Tomato, strawberry, orange, corn, squash, etc.)

THey just go from field to field making what money they can. They for the most part live in tiny rundown trailers packing 10+ people in 2 bedrooms.

Our taxes then give them stability by providing them welfare.

Then, what do they do with the money they earn picking?  They don\'t put it back into the system.  They send it to their families in MExico or wherever.


And before you get on your high horse.  I KNOW THIS ISN\'T EVERY SINGLE SPANISH SPEAKING PERSON IN THE US!!!!

But, out of the pockets of people where they don\'t care to learn english, this is what is happening here.

[Paul2]

Se basa todo sobre la gente que usted está alrededor y que vive cerca. Ése es porqué usted se siente como español es una lengua necesaria. Y está para usted debido a donde usted vive. La mayoría del país es inglés. Estoy dispuesto a apostar que si usted votara a gente de discurso inglesa en los E.E.U.U., por lo menos el 90% de ellos no tendrían ninguna condolencia para la gente de habla hispana que ha vivido en este país para una cantidad de tiempo decente.

El problema es que la gente viene en este país y vive en los bolsillos que ella es cómoda adentro. Las comunidades de habla hispana.

No tienen ninguna necesidad de aprender inglés. Aquí en Tampa de las comunidades como esto están más los recogedores vegetales (tomate, fresa, naranja, maíz, calabaza, los etc.)

Apenas van de campo a la fabricación del campo qué dinero pueden. Ellos para la mayor parte viva en los acoplados minúsculos de la reducción que embalan a la gente 10+ en 2 dormitorios.

Nuestros impuestos entonces les dan estabilidad proporcionándolos bienestar.

 ¿Entonces, qué él hace con el dinero que gana la cosecha? Él no la pone nuevamente dentro del sistema. Él lo envía a sus familias en México o dondequiera que.

Y antes de usted consiga en su caballo alto. ¡cSé Que ÉSTA NO ES CADA SOLA PERSONA DE HABLA HISPANA EN LOS E.E.U.U.!!!!

Pero, fuera de los bolsillos de la gente donde no cuidan para aprender inglés, esto es qué está sucediendo aquí.

[videoholic]

Thanks.  That will help out Mr. Bling Bling

Paul2, that\'s not spanish, that\'s a bad translator dude.

[Paul2]

I am using Alta Vista Babel Fish translating from the internet to translate Videoholic words in Spanish.  I thought it would be funny.  In my opinion, I kinda agree that when Mexicans migrate to U. S., it\'s not important if they learn English or not.  What\'s important is their later generations like their kids that born in the U. S. should learn English and speak English.  Since their kids go to school, they should learn English, and if they\'re bilingual.  that\'s better.  Prepare them for a better future.  But if Latino America only learn Spanish when they are raised in the U. S.  That\'s wrong.