What are we doing?!

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Originally posted by GigaShadow
That is true, but if going into Iraq was about "cheap oil" - which was a popular anti war slogan (not by you luckee) why don\'t we just pump that oil straight to America to relieve OPEC\'s squeeze?  We can\'t because it isn\'t our oil regardless of the fact that we are the defacto rulers of Iraq.

well i admit in the back of my mind i thought part of the reason bush went to war was to get at least a piece of the oil trade in iraq..but i wasn\'t sayin that this war was about the oil just that the war period wasn\'t just right (i know you wasn\'t directing that post at me giga i\'m just sayin\' ) anyway it turns out that was not the case & those a$$holes from opec have the whole oil charade locked down...:evil:

Well oil can be made from pig doo doo according to the Associated Press!  Our problem is solved!

Take that, you anti-swine Muslims and Jews...

Even if it still may be, I dont think even Bush is dumb enough to anything about it now. That would certainly promise that he wouldnt get re-elected.

All that and still No WMD... Huh anyone would start to think that they didn\'t exsist.

Hussein himself was a WMD.

What do you guys think about us going after Al-Sadr dude? I still don\'t know why we\'re going after him.

Originally posted by SwifDi
Hussein himself was a WMD.

Like i said no WMD found yet...

Come on if they where ready to use in 45 minutes then surely we would of found them by now... or even the means to support and produce them...

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well this is going a little off topic..i came in on the tail end of bushes speech on iraq last night & i have to say i don\'t know how he performed before i came in but the part of the speech i did see i was highly impressed with his honesty & compassion for how he felt about the war. In another thread i posted how he performed horribly on the televised meet the press interview..this time around he was confident & wasn\'t takin\' no S**t from nobody & he spoke his mind..none of that political bulls**t.

i didn\'t see this part but somebody asked him about apologizing for what happended ..he stated "it was bin laden who did this..he attacked us"..and he\'s right it wasn\'t his fault 911 happended & lets be honest.. NOBODY would have ever thought somebody was going to fly planes into the world trade ctr..i can only imagine how many threats the u.s. receive everyday. I\'m baffled as to why people are tryin\' to find out what & why it happended..it was a historic tragedy..& caught everybody by surprise..why ask questions & waste time trying to figure that out? just move on & put policies in place so hopefully it won\'t happen again period.

a reporter asked him do you think you\'ve failed to get your point across on iraq because he (the reporter) was implying that bush repeats the same thing in all his speeches..so bush stated and this wasn\'t his exact words but it was to this effect that ..look i\'m not going to come out here & be phony or say things that i don\'t feel is coming from my heart..he admitted that seeing body bags is hard but there was a purpose...like i said i came in on the tail end of it but even tho..i don\'t agree with how he handled iraq..i have alot of respect for him because he doesn\'t back down under pressure & says what he feels & that goes a long way for me...

so my conclusion even tho some may say i\'m gullible to the pres. speeches but i consider myself to be a good judge of character..i can tell when a politician is spouting political bulls**t & i can tell when some are truly sayin\' what they feel..bush said what he felt in his heart was right & he doesn\'t change his tune because of public or political pressure...i gotta give it up to him for that..bush for pres..he\'s not the best...but he\'s better than kerry & he needs to clean this crap up that he has goin\' on..

looks like no-one is getting this so i will say it again.

One YEAR on & still No WMD found ?

Why did we go to war in the first place then.


I mean i can\'t be for Humanitarian reasons… because if it was then there are Far worse Dictators out there

[Titan]

Originally posted by ooseven
Like i said no WMD found yet...

I swear to GOD no one reads my posts. This is from THIS thread what I said about WMDs earlier.

A WMD isn\'t just nuclear weapons but anything that can kill a group of people. A truck bomb, biological and chemical weapons (which we ARE finding), the missiles that Hussein had and anything else that can kill a group of people or property. The civilian population is thinking and exagerating this WMD thing way too much. People think that they are nuclear weapons. But we aren\'t looking for them. We suspected that he had them but went in to disarm him from other stuff too.

I wouldn\'t say that. My dad is in the reserves and works with WMDs. They are finding stuff. The media keeps putting nuclear weapons as WMDs and that is what we\'re looking for (which we really aren\'t). A WMD includes a truck bomb, chemical and biological weapons (which we\'ve been finding) and the means of deliverance of these weapons. That is what we are looking for and that is what we are finding. People just keep making WMDs more than they really are.

but just like most murder cases....you must have the gun..the slug that matches the barrel of said gun, and possibly a matching shell case.

Was it not enough that we saved thousands of Iraqis?

There was no real guarantee we did though. Saddam hadnt really done anything in a while anyway. Of course he probably would have..but we cant go around locking ex-cons up after they serve their time on the basis they might/probably will commit another crime.

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Well Titan that\'s too bad that people don\'t know the vast quantity of different types of WMD. Simply because when a person hears "WMD" on the TV, radio or whatever, they think of the big black mushroom cloud. And you know what, that\'s the exact thought that Bush\'s Government wanted people to see in order to push the effort of the war.

If we have found any biological weapons they would surely be on the news. I\'ve heard of weapons that have been found but were no longer a threat as a weapon.

Saddam himself was the weapon...Hmm, nope. I don\'t remember Bush ever saying that. Except after no real weapons were found. They had to find some kind of excuse though right? Besides who\'s the "bigger weapon" Saddam or Osama, which by the way, hasn\'t even been captured and I believe they have found a recent video of him still alive and itching to kill some more.

Bush\'s press conference was pretty good. The guy spoke with much confidence. But overall it was always the same thing. He always fled away from the question and got in all kinds of things that he wanted to say. In all, he took more time answering on question than trying to answer as many as he could.