Al Sharpton

Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Wow. That was a good speech. If you guys in here are gonna call him stupid, give me a good damn reason, don\'t just talk out of your ass.

How about those who praise him give a "damn good reason"?

Isn\'t that why this thread was started?

I guess that means all of you are just "talking out of your ass"...

As for Sharpton, how come he never protests when a non-black person (not necessarily innocent) is the victim of alleged racism?

[clips]

look,..the guy is no boy scout i admit,..i was only commenting on his speech and you cats wanna bring up his whole career..what is really scary is that people voted for guiliani,..knowing that he marched with ny cops yelling "nigger nigger" referring to then mayor david dinkins...*clips brushes his shoulder off for silencing the critics*...

As I was only commenting on his speech.

The speech was good because I agree with him about giving reperations to former slaves and what not. Because the system did not grant them a fair chance at economic equality untill recently, and it is hard to succeed when everyone else has been educated and successfull 100 years before you get a chance.

Originally posted by clips
look,..the guy is no boy scout i admit,..i was only commenting on his speech and you cats wanna bring up his whole career..what is really scary is that people voted for guiliani,..knowing that he marched with ny cops yelling "nigger nigger" referring to then mayor david dinkins...*clips brushes his shoulder off for silencing the critics*...

A politician is the sum of his career.  Sharpton = moron.  Sharpton\'s speech = same old nonsense.

Originally posted by Deadly Hamster

The speech was good because I agree with him about giving reperations to former slaves and what not. Because the system did not grant them a fair chance at economic equality untill recently, and it is hard to succeed when everyone else has been educated and successfull 100 years before you get a chance.

The day reparations are paid is the day hell will freeze over.  Your logic is also flawed in that immigrants who arrive here with pocket lint become successful - why can\'t blacks?  Stop blaming a dead institution for the problems suffered by blacks in the 21st century.

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hmmm...so the americans that voted for guliani knowing that he marched with ny cops yelling & holding signs of racial disgust aren\'t morons? my point is that i\'m comparing the two & yet guliani was voted in regardless of that,..yet when sharpton shouts such statements he\'s a moron...talk about the pot callin the kettle black..:rolleyes: and sharptons speech spoke volumes whether you want to acknowledge that or not....


*and yes i know sharpton shouldn\'t be shoutin such rhetoric,..but neither should guliani or the guys that are supposedly to serve and to protect....

Originally posted by clips
sharptons speech spoke volumes whether you want to acknowledge that or not....

I agree... volumes of $hit.

You all act like racists in politics is a new concept

- Good grammar should make no difference.  What makes a difference is if the speaker said something and how his speach impacted those listening.  I think this speach did a decent job with the first point and a great job with the second.  Whether you agree with it is something entirely different from whether it was a good speach.  It accomplished its task as well as any at that convention.

And even if someone hasn\'t done great things in the past, does that mean he can\'t point out when other people are doing bad or even worse things?  I don\'t think so.

Originally posted by shockwaves

And even if someone hasn\'t done great things in the past, does that mean he can\'t point out when other people are doing bad or even worse things?  I don\'t think so.

As Ashford pointed out what was so great about that speech?  He wants donkeys and 40 acres?

clips - please point out a link where Guillani was carrying a racist sign and yelling racist comments.  If Al Sharpton is the best the black community has for a leader - it is in sad shape.

I think his speech was good because it accomplished what he wanted it to.  It said what he wanted, it got a great reaction, and it has people talking, as this thread shows.  What more do you want from a speech?

We are talking more about him than the speech.  Like I said, you can\'t dismiss the man\'s actions and previous comments.  

Since this is about the DNC speech I will add that his speech was nothing more than ultra liberal rhetoric aimed at African Americans - so yes I guess you can say he reached his target audience.  A divider - not a uniter.  His speech was on par for his overall standing on issues.  They alienate moderates who are not black.

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i didn\'t say he was carrying the sign or yelling racist remarks..only that he was marching with them...

do me a favor and read the speech..stop bein so one sided..damn even tho i don\'t like bush that much i can still point out some things good that he\'s done...you act like you can\'t find nothing good in the speech,..without going into detail everything he spoke upon in that speech was the truth..nothing more and nothing less..i look at both sides of the spectrum giga...and if somebody that i like or if they\'re a democrat and they\'re into shady s**t i\'ll call them out on it regardless of my political agenda

it\'s ok to be loyal... it\'s not ok to be blindless sheep...

Yes I see a conflict with politics and church, the two should not mix. That so being that the political leaders of the black community all are preachers. Too bad they don\'t act like them.

Originally posted by clips
i didn\'t say he was carrying the sign or yelling racist remarks..only that he was marching with them...

do me a favor and read the speech..stop bein so one sided..damn even tho i don\'t like bush that much i can still point out some things good that he\'s done...you act like you can\'t find nothing good in the speech,..without going into detail everything he spoke upon in that speech was the truth..nothing more and nothing less..i look at both sides of the spectrum giga...and if somebody that i like or if they\'re a democrat and they\'re into shady s**t i\'ll call them out on it regardless of my political agenda

it\'s ok to be loyal... it\'s not ok to be blindless sheep...

Marching with the NYPD who happen to have a few bad apples marching with them is a hell of a lot different than actually inciting and condoning hate crimes (see Al Sharpton).  You can\'t even draw a parallel to Sharpton and Guilliani.

I read the speech - I don\'t think you have.  I found nothing mind blowing or moving in that speech - just more whining and race dividing by Sharpton.  Paying reparations!?!?!?!  Yeah that will bring the country together.  Also the reason he received a good reaction to is because 40 percent of the delegats were minorities and the rest were hard core liberals.  You honestly don\'t think Sharpton has questionable practices regarding race relations?  I guess you would have voted for Marion Barry after his drug bust eh?

Originally posted by mjps21983
Yes I see a conflict with politics and church, the two should not mix. That so being that the political leaders of the black community all are preachers. Too bad they don\'t act like them.

They are all little wanna be Martin Luther King\'s.  MLK was no saint, but he did more for blacks than any one man in this country.