Upcomming Election

If you\'ve been watching the news recnetly you\'ve noticed that from both sides, most the adds are either focused on 1950-1970 or just focused on destroying the other canidates Reputation.

This has just come down to a "You lied!" then "No, you lied about me lying!"

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/21/edwards.swiftboat/index.html

As you can see there, one major contraversy as of late are the adds by Swift Boat Veterans group.

But then, this is said to be un-true by:

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?oldflok=FF-APO-1131&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040821%2F1734392811.htm&sc=1131&flok=NW_5-L3


Anyways, my point is.... Im starting to get the feeling that the American public is going to let this election be decided by whoever can make events 20 years ago look the worst for either canidate.

This is not how things should be to determine the most powerful man in our country.

Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
This is not how things should be to determine the most powerful man in our country.

Nor are haircuts and charisma, (alone) but it happens.

[Titan]

This election has become a huge joke.

[clips]

meh..it just takes away from talking about the real issues...and kerry shouldn\'t have used bush\'s own remark when he stated "bring it on!" :rolleyes: that was a weak comeback. he should\'ve just made a remark to bush about talkin about current issues & how i (kerry) stand by how i felt about the vietnam war..the same way i feel about iraq...but then again he stated he would\'ve done the same thing regarding iraq..he just would\'ve gotten more support..

whatever.. i really am not big on either bush or kerry..if you listen to both of them closely..they really don\'t differ from one another...

Originally posted by Titan
This election has become a huge joke.

What .....Just this one ?

so i take it you where asleep during the last one then ....

Originally posted by Lord Nicon
Nor are haircuts and charisma, (alone) but it happens.

True.  I\'m far from a history buff but I remember one of my professors saying Nixon was clearly the better candidate from a politcal perspective, but the good looks and charisma of JFK got him the win.

*waits for Giga to shoot me down and make me look like an idiot* :eyemouth:

[videoholic]

Usually this stuff takes a back seat on election day.  It\'s just fun crap for the media to cover.  The voter is supposed to be able to see through all this crap.

Originally posted by THX
True.  I\'m far from a history buff but I remember one of my professors saying Nixon was clearly the better candidate from a politcal perspective, but the good looks and charisma of JFK got him the win.

*waits for Giga to shoot me down and make me look like an idiot* :eyemouth:

I remember seeing something about that on the discovery channel..

There was a television debate or something between Nixon and Kennedy.. Nixon did not want to wear makeup because he said it was for "gays".. So while infront of all those TV lights Nixon started to sweat, he got shiny and so on, that’s why Kennedy won.

Something like that according to Disovery.

Nope THX I think you are right - Nixon was never media savvy.  There are some terrible pictures of him at the UN yawning and doing everything except picking his nose.  Kennedy\'s charisma definitely helped him win that election.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Nope THX I think you are right - Nixon was never media savvy.  There are some terrible pictures of him at the UN yawning and doing everything except picking his nose.  Kennedy\'s charisma definitely helped him win that election.

Easily. This is the best case of it. Its what i was thinking when i said it. I think if i remember correctly, he had coaching on how to look in front of the camera. Being media savvy on television wasnt really an easy task considering tv wasnt even out for that long at that point. But like i said, people, despite their age will vote for stupid reasons. Sad but true.

Kerry gets some ammo?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040826/ts_afp/us_economy_poverty_040826172924

Not really.  There will be no national health care here in the US - we don\'t have a small enough population to experiment with that and as for poverty...

Our poverty is better than most countries middle class.   In the US, there is absolutely no reason for anyone to not be able to provide for themselves, apart from their own lifestyle choices.  

This is another thing most people including Americans don\'t understand:  The economy has nothing to do with who is in office.

[Titan]

Originally posted by ooseven
What .....Just this one ?

so i take it you where asleep during the last one then ....

No, I wasn\'t into politics nor gave a crap.

There will be no national health care here in the US - we don\'t have a small enough population to experiment with that

Perhaps its time to split up?

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Our poverty is better than most countries middle class.   In the US, there is absolutely no reason for anyone to not be able to provide for themselves, apart from their own lifestyle choices.  

I read another study on that several months ago.
It compared the poverty of several countires using the same "guidelines"/"measurement".. the poverty was still quite high?

I havent been able to find it, so I cant back it up right now.

Didint want to start a new thread so here.

Bush pulls ahead of Kerry

Im sure Giga will be pleased

Not that its anything huge. I just saw it and figured id post it.