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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2004, 07:49:29 PM »
I watched the whole thing and the following reports and everyone was synonomous is saying that Kerry handled himself extremely well.

Bush on the other hand caught some criticism.

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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2004, 07:51:08 PM »
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Interesting score card for those that are interested:

http://www.hughhewitt.com/
That is a horribly slanted website.  All you have to do is look at the writer giving Bush an "A" for question 2, and it discredits the whole list.

The question was "Would the election of Sen. Kerry increase the chances of 9/11-like attacks?"  Bush didn\'t even attempt to answer the question.  This question was intended to allow Bush to own up to Cheney\'s BS statement that voting for Kerry would increase our risk of a terrorist attack.  Bush needs to be responsible for what his campaign is saying.  Instead he dodged by saying "it\'s not going to happen."  but if IT DID HAPPEN????  ... It\'s not going to happen....  :rolleyes: How is that an A answer?

I think we should all make an attempt to find internet sources that are closer to being impartial.  I was switching channels repeatedly after the debate trying to find one that was relatively impartial.  I don\'t want to hear the Democratic response or the Republican response.  I want to hear a neutral response.  PBS came closest.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2004, 08:38:10 PM »
*damn, I hate politics*

its crazy.  I notice the presidential debates were aired...but as soon as i see it, i skip it as i don\'t know who is right who is wrong...its like both sides have their reasoning and blah here and blah there...

I am like, man, its not like math where you usually can get a straightforward answer most of the times and it makes sense....:nut:

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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2004, 08:43:34 PM »
Kerry won this debate plain and simple.

Bush was stammering and stuttering his way around questions and really did not say anything.

Kerry came out and clearly stated his position and distinguished himself from Bush. This is the first time that I actually felt that Kerry could actually beat Bush. Bush seemed flustered and unprepared while Kerry came across as the exact opposite.

For the first time Kerry looked like an actual president and I think that this will show up in the polls.
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2004, 08:47:53 PM »
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I think we should all make an attempt to find internet sources that at least make an attempt at being impartial.  I was switching channels repeatedly after the debate trying to find one that was relatively impartial.  I don\'t want to hear the Democratic response or the Republican response.  I want to hear a neutral response.  PBS came closest.
I agree. PBS is generally bipartisan when it comes to political coverage. I was actually watching Fox News(Greta Van Sustren\'s show) and you could tell by the reactions/demeanors of the people on the show who they felt won the debate. The Dems were upbeat while the GOP went into hardcore spin. It was VERY telling.
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2004, 09:16:28 PM »
I say pretty much a draw but the talking heads are going on how Bush was angry and did not look good. I don\'t get it and  I don\'t think I\'m blinded that much by my bias but who knows. We\'ll have to wait a couple of days for the dust to settle before we know if it really had any impact.
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2004, 09:20:35 PM »
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6123733/

Who won the debate?

*432090 responses

Bush -- 29%
Kerry -- 71%

(10-second pause......)


[size=10]OWNED.[/size]

Seriously, these polls aren\'t all that reliable but I haven\'t seen one leaning in favor of Bush.

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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2004, 09:49:05 PM »
I don\'t see how anyone, including Bush supporters can say Bush looked calm and prepared on during that debate. I have seen various things on CNN, MSNBC and other news sources and all of them agree that Bush was visually upset at times and at one point looked like he didn\'t even want to be at the debate. You include that with Bush\'s constant stuttering durin\' questions and you get a poor apperance by Bush. The Bush Adminstration can only hope he looks better a week from now, as he clearly lost this one and I don\'t think anyone thinks that Cheney can deliver a decent debate.

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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2004, 09:57:37 PM »
Bush may have looked like an idiot but he comes on as the underdog.  As long as Kerry doesn\'t come across as an ass in the upcoming weeks then I think Bush can start packing.

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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2004, 09:59:04 PM »
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6123733/

Who won the debate?

*432090 responses

Bush -- 29%
Kerry -- 71%

(10-second pause......)


[size=10]OWNED.[/size]

Seriously, these polls aren\'t all that reliable but I haven\'t seen one leaning in favor of Bush.

THIS POLL IS IRREFUTABLE SCIENTIFIC PROOF THAT KERRY DID BETTAR.

Sorry I agree Kerry was more at ease at did better in the debate, but just trying to offset the "OWNDNESS" ;)  They each did a good job imo.  I don\'t care about appearance as much as wanting to know the candidate.

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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2004, 10:32:00 PM »
After watching the debate it didn\'t seem like either would sway people to their side.  Their were no moving responses, if you went in a bush fan you\'ll leave a bush fan, and vice versa.

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« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2004, 11:53:16 PM »
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After watching the debate it didn\'t seem like either would sway people to their side.  Their were no moving responses, if you went in a bush fan you\'ll leave a bush fan, and vice versa.



Disagree, I know a lot of Republican\'s where I work and they admit that Kerry won this hands down. Will that effect how they vote? Maybe.

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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2004, 02:01:46 AM »
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Bush has really trained for the debate, even wanting to make rebuttles to Kerry\'s points.  Smooth talker even though he\'s skirting on some issues with statistics.


Bush looked more like a terrified rabbit caught in a cars head lights to me.


Put it this way(in a Strange Fantasy world) and if it was a Blair Vs Bush debate.... it would be a out and out massacre.

As Blair would of ignored the Whole Iraq issue and Attacked Bush on his Piss poor Home record.

Which Kerry should of done more of.

it would also of hurt Kerry to make more of the "mission Accomplished"  statement that Bush made on ye olde Aircraft  Carrier.
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« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2004, 03:56:16 AM »
Kerry won, Bush didn\'t even say anything about actual plans.
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« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2004, 04:10:01 AM »
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 I want to hear a neutral response.  PBS came closest.


Since when is PBS neutral?  John Kerry was getting cream puff questions all night long.  It still doesn\'t change the fact that he is wrong on serveral key issues:

1.  Bipartisan talks with North Korea.

2.  He still has NO clear position on Iraq.

3.  He clearly needs a history lesson on why there are sanctions on Iran.  He also doesn\'t know the difference between plutonium and highly enriched uranium.

4.  Again I ask what is this "global test" Kerry was referring to?

Bush was very clear on where he stands on foreign policy.  Kerry stated he would train more Iraqi\'s faster - Bush is already doing that.  Kerry gave some ridiculous time table on withdrawal from Iraq.  He is under the false impression that other countries are going to come in and take the place of American troops.

Lastly, Kerry may have sounded "stately", but listening to CNN, Fox and ABC this morning on XM radio most of the experts agree, on substance Bush won.  Overall they all agreed, the debate was a draw with neither side hitting a "home run" so to speak.
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