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Jon Stewart on Crossfire
« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2004, 12:15:26 AM »
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They don\'t get payed to bark out their lame political ideals.


Ex-politicians and most anyone associated with them on their staff in some way go on to be experts in their professions and are given hundreds of thousands of dollars to lecture at colleges and other scheduled gatherings.  It\'s why most every politician never has to work again once they achieve a seat in congress or in the senate or any other political body in DC.  Give a few years -- gain the rest of your life.  Pretty sweet in some ways I suppose.

Aside from that, I think this thread is hilarious.  Stewart was trying to get the point across that news channels have a responsibility to report to the public and let them decide, but instead go right to the spin doctors who constantly try and pursuade the people into agreeing with their opinion.  The fact that he had Kerry on his show and didn\'t ask him "hardball questions" isn\'t anything that should have been brought up or discussed.  Consider the mediums and the outlets for each show -- how could the Daily Show, on Comedy Central, ever be held to the same political standards as a show like Crossfire on CNN?  One\'s almost a smart political satire while the other is a hard hitting argumentative forum for "Discussion" that immediately distory facts with a panel of spinners and sinners.

I\'m just curious how Jon Stewart came off as an asshole when he simply called a few hosts out for not doing their jobs.
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« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2004, 12:44:12 AM »
Oh, don\'t aim anything at me.  I didn\'t see Stewart on crossfire nor do I really have an opinion on him.  I just hate when some lame actor gets on a commercial giving his opinion on who I should vote for.

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« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2004, 06:19:02 AM »
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Oh, don\'t aim anything at me.  I didn\'t see Stewart on crossfire nor do I really have an opinion on him.  I just hate when some lame actor gets on a commercial giving his opinion on who I should vote for.


With the exception of mentioning how politicians are paid for their services to lecture their opinions, the majority of my post was not aimed at you. :)
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« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2004, 06:40:27 AM »
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Oh, don\'t aim anything at me.  I didn\'t see Stewart on crossfire nor do I really have an opinion on him.  I just hate when some lame actor gets on a commercial giving his opinion on who I should vote for.
All you have to do is click the link provided on the previous page of this thread to view the crossfire segment.  I recommend it.
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« Reply #49 on: October 19, 2004, 08:20:46 AM »
That was amazing.  Absolutely amazing.  We need more people like John Stewart.
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« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2004, 10:17:07 AM »
Thats great though, he had no problem going out there and calling them out on everything.  I avoid crossfire so I don\'t know the reasoning behind all his comments but I got the gist of it.  He\'s definitely too witty for anyones good.

And Ryu, I know you weren\'t, I just didn\'t want to come off looking like an idiot because I hadn\'t seen the show.

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« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2004, 03:15:45 PM »
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Not that impressed by Stewart\'s preformance. It\'s incredibly obvious that he was thoroughly prepared to launch an all out verbal assault on the show. He took his time waiting then eventually just went for it and it\'s also very clear that the hosts were caught completely off guard. They viewed him as a comedian and when he started going off they were dumbfounded and vulnerable.

Funny, but kind of cheap on Stewart\'s part.


I\'m guessing you didn\'t think it was obvious that crossfire was going to try and go after him as well, but they couldn\'t.  They tried with the board they made with the three quotes.  They tried numerous attempts at saying how much he doesn\'t take advantage of the opportunities he has with these big leaders.  

I\'m guessing you just didn\'t want to see that side of it.
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« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2004, 03:53:26 PM »
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JUST LIKE THE MATRIX!!!!! :surprised :


  I just want some people to understand, Jon Stewart wasn\'t really talking about politics on the show. So stop saying stuff like "actors should keep their mouths shut about politics."

  He was talking about new reporting and what the reporters were doing wrong. He was never trying to try anything about which politics were right, who made mistakes, he was just trying to tell the reporters on crossfire they were not doint there job. So all you people out there arguing that he\'s a comedian, not a politician, HE WAS NEVER TRYING TO BE A POLITICIAN!!!
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« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2004, 06:55:43 PM »
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I\'m guessing you didn\'t think it was obvious that crossfire was going to try and go after him as well, but they couldn\'t.  They tried with the board they made with the three quotes.  They tried numerous attempts at saying how much he doesn\'t take advantage of the opportunities he has with these big leaders.  

I\'m guessing you just didn\'t want to see that side of it.

Their attempts were pretty light hearted and weak. I think they only made two tries at it, both after Stewart launched his assault.

They were definitely not going after Stewart in the same sense that he was to them.
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« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2004, 10:14:25 PM »
I think it was pretty obvious that the guy with the bow tie was planning a full scale attack on Mr. Stewart. He was pressing the issues as if trying to embarrass him or at least portray him as a fake and biased host. The good thing was that they all backfired.
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« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2004, 10:51:15 PM »
They had a few softball questions that any idiot would expect going into Crossfire. All of bowtie\'s hard knocks came after Stewart\'s little speech in his defense.

Wouldn\'t say backfired either, more like consistently being interupted by Stewart. Although I love the Daily Show, it is pretty biased. He even made it clear on Crossfire that he disliked this administration. Fortunately for him he had the comfort of being able to hide beyind the comedic title of the show while the CNN guys were pretty much put in their place.
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« Reply #56 on: October 20, 2004, 02:08:26 AM »
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Their attempts were pretty light hearted and weak. I think they only made two tries at it, both after Stewart launched his assault.

They were definitely not going after Stewart in the same sense that he was to them.


So you are saying that Carlsons points sucked.  Well very true.  But you can\'t say they didn\'t try to attack Stewart just because they sucked at it.


And being consistently interupted was done on both sides and it\'s a normal part of that crappy show.
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« Reply #57 on: October 21, 2004, 02:08:21 AM »
If I cared more for the show then I would have to agree with Jumpman.  They weren\'t looking to rail stewart, nothing was really said until Stewart repeatidly was an ass to them.  Luckily though, I don\'t care what they think so I found Stewart\'s comments witty and to the point.

Also, is this what the world has come to? Interupting and just being an ass in general.

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« Reply #58 on: October 21, 2004, 03:09:37 PM »
....yup, pretty much
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« Reply #59 on: October 21, 2004, 07:11:04 PM »
Carlson wants to debate Stewart again, but on PBS.  whatever.  Stewart won\'t do it, I doubt.  Why would he?
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