Official HALO 2 thread

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Originally posted by ooseven
VC and SA ARE spin off\'s as they use the same engine and same gameplay.

The NEXT GTA will most likely be the true sequel to the series, and it will only appear on the next gen consoles.

ahh give me a friggin break.  So games that use the same engine are spin offs... That\'s gotta be the LAMEST bs thing i\'ve ever heard.

So every game thats used the Q3 engine is a spin off on Q3, or every game thats used UT or even HL engine are spin offs.


keep floggin yourself.

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ahh give me a friggin break.  So games that use the same engine are spin offs... That\'s gotta be the LAMEST bs thing i\'ve ever heard.

So every game thats used the Q3 engine is a spin off on Q3, or every game thats used UT or even HL engine are spin offs.


keep floggin yourself.

yeah sure they where true sequels :rolleyes:

you know i don\'t even think Rockstar north thinks of them as sequels.

But hey if YOU know better, then maybe you should email them to let them know that they are WRONG .

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Originally posted by ooseven
VC and SA ARE spin off\'s as they use the same engine and same gameplay.

The NEXT GTA will most likely be the true sequel to the series, and it will only appear on the next gen consoles.

Give me a breaking freak.
They are not spin-offs. They are part of the same franchise and use the same engine. The only thing different is some minor gameplay changes and storyline. You are grasping at straws.

Honestly - can you be that naive? Just because it does not say "GTA 4" on it, does not mean that it is not a sequel. If it uses the same engine and is part of the same franchise, then it needs to live up or surpass the previous games in the series.

If you are going to spout out nonsense like this, do me a favour and just don\'t post.

how aren\'t they the official sequels..

I think you\'re right, I must have misread an article on the series in regards to the gameplay.  My apologies.

Sounds like you\'re making excuses for them rehashing the game.

I don\'t have to make excuses, Halo 2 is out. Some people are going to like it, some won\'t, the end.

They weren\'t always tedius. There were moments. In between the non-stop blasting through the exact same levels against the exact same enemies for 8 hours.

I\'m sure the same was being said after Tomb Raider 2.  And apparently, Bungie think so, too. If they had to omit so many features.

Still, you find the bulk of the gameplay to flawed when it\'s just Halo\'s style, an approach that arguably worked considering the fanbase for the original.  I suppose we\'ll have to wait and see if it does become the next Tomb Raider.  If Bungie stands still for too long then the fans will eventually tire of it, or someone else will come in and do it better.

still not sure why you bought into it so easily considering your complaints...shrugs

wait, did ginko really compare camping out overnight for a short supply console and halo 2?

It boils down to people who are enthusiastic about said purchase/event.  Same reason people camped out for Star Wars Episode 1.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Give me a breaking freak.
They are not spin-offs. They are part of the same franchise and use the same engine. The only thing different is some minor gameplay changes and storyline. You are grasping at straws.

Honestly - can you be that naive? Just because it does not say "GTA 4" on it, does not mean that it is not a sequel. If it uses the same engine and is part of the same franchise, then it needs to live up or surpass the previous games in the series.

If you are going to spout out nonsense like this, do me a favour and just don\'t post.

Grasping straws ehhh

Strange that the gap between GTA3 and GTA:VC could just comedown to a bunch of features that didn\'t make it into the previous game.

For example

• Flying Fully winged aircraft (which had to be dropped due to 9/11)
• Sub Missions that ended with you gaining revenue, that you can pick up outside the property.
• The Introduction of bikes etc...etc...etc...

Although after playing SA for a while its hard to call it a simple spin off or even go as far as a sequel.

I would call it a evolution in the game cycle.

What we saw in GTA:SA isn\'t a million miles from GTA3.

All the fundamentals are there, its just that the boundaries of the game have increased giving the player MORE choise.

GTA4 like I said will most likely appear on the next gen consoles… when the LEAP with be so reconasable that it will be comparable from the leap of GTA2 to GTA3.


Oh and another thing LIC stop being such an Elitest @rsehole…. Oh sorry I forgot you can’t help it.

Anyway if you’re looking for MORE people to look down you’re nose at then sod off it http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/ and be done with it.

I guess I\'m in the minority  because I really liked Halo and like Halo 2 even more.

I haven\'t touched multiplayer or co-op and am enjoying campaign mode. I\'m just not seeing how the battles are any more repetitive than any other FPS in history. I like dual wielding and in fact think it is almost essential against certain enemies. I don\'t get how people think its useless later on in the game when I didn\'t use it early on and use it extensively now. The AI is much better and besides the occasional idiotic move of driving in big circles the AI drivers are pretty good.

I just can\'t say that I am not having fun while playing this game. If I\'m enjoying the campaign I can\'t wait to take on co-op(which IMO was Halo\'s best feature).


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BTW, GTA: VC and GTA: SA are kind of a mixture between spinoff and sequel. In fact I\'m almost positive that the next GTA game will be GTA4.

Rockstar/DMA has been doing this with the GTA franchise forever. They released like 5 different "spequels" for GTA2 before GTA3 dropped on the PS2.

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Originally posted by ooseven
Grasping straws ehhh

Strange that the gap between GTA3 and GTA:VC could just comedown to a bunch of features that didn\'t make it into the previous game.

For example

• Flying Fully winged aircraft (which had to be dropped due to 9/11)
• Sub Missions that ended with you gaining revenue, that you can pick up outside the property.
• The Introduction of bikes etc...etc...etc...

Although after playing SA for a while its hard to call it a simple spin off or even go as far as a sequel.

I would call it a evolution in the game cycle.

What we saw in GTA:SA isn\'t a million miles from GTA3.

All the fundamentals are there, its just that the boundaries of the game have increased giving the player MORE choise.

GTA4 like I said will most likely appear on the next gen consoles… when the LEAP with be so reconasable that it will be comparable from the leap of GTA2 to GTA3.


Oh and another thing LIC stop being such an Elitest @rsehole…. Oh sorry I forgot you can’t help it.

Anyway if you’re looking for MORE people to look down you’re nose at then sod off it http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/ and be done with it. [/B]

You may be the dumbest member on this forum. Sorry, it\'s the truth. Sod off my nose? What the hell?

If a game uses the same engine and is part of the same franchise, then what is the problem? I consider \'Resident Evil: Code Veronica\' a sequel, even though it does not have a number in it and it uses a DIFFERENT engine. It is all part of the same franchise.

An evolution of the gameplay / engine? What the hell do you think a sequel is? It is taking the fundemental parts of a game / franchise and then molding it. Making small tinkerings here and there. Putting things in that the original did not have time to do. The same exact thing that GTA has done. The same exact thing that Halo does.

Sorry if you can\'t grasp simple logic.

How can you compare movie gross to video game gross when movies cost $9 and games cost $50?

Yeah, if GTA:SA is a spinoff then Halo 2 is a spinoff.. and Metroid Prime 2 as well.

Same general RenderWare engine, new game = not a spinoff. A rehash, maybe.. but top-tier developers tend to make what would be defined as a rehash into a new, kick-ass experience.

Originally posted by Ashford
How can you compare movie gross to video game gross when movies cost $9 and games cost $50?

Easily when you take into account the fact that even bad movies\' first day gross is usually higher than most console games lifetime gross.

GTA 1 and GTA 2 on the PC looked and played exactly alike yet they are two different games with two different numbers after them.

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ohh you\'re all wrong they\'re spin offs dammit, spin offs!!!!!  

because ooseven says so.

The world is just full of spin off games. Every game made with the same engine of anther is a spin off.  So, RTCW, COD are spin offs on Q3.     The list could go on and on..

It’s simple, if it’s a entirely new storyline, new maps, new game play elements. I call it a sequel unless the ORIGNIAL is required to play it.

GTA:VC and GTA:SA are spinoffs of GTA:3

why is this even being discussed?

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What is Resident Evil: Code Veronica,then?