Bush wins the election!

Sincerely, I do believe Bush was the better candidate for the next four years. He began this entire "War on Terror" and I think its only appropriate that he continues the offensive. I couldn\'t imagine the mess we\'d get into with Bush\'s plan dumped onto Kerry\'s lap.  Hopefully with these next four years, Bush can tie up many loose ends and get this country on the right track.  Maybe it was boastful to state Bush was the better candidate, but then again you cannot say that Kerry would have been a great president.  We\'re in a mess right now, and I think Bush is the right guy to get it cleaned up.  I like his idea of an offensive approach to terrorism, and keeping them on the run.  

I trust Bush because the guy stands up for what he believes in, and doesn\'t show any signs of hesitation.  He\'s not the greatest president, but he\'s what we need right now.

Originally posted by SirMystiq

This country is DIVIDED heavily. 4million votes isn\'t really that much of a difference. I really hope(probably in vain) that Bush won\'t begin to make choices due to his religion.

The country is only as divided as people are allowing it to be. If people want to be so anti-Bush, and so left-sided, and don\'t want to just put all this party bullshit aside, then the country will become divided.  The most disappointing thing from this election I\'ve seen is how bitter many democrats have become, and are pulling these "division" cards left and right.

If so many Americans weren\'t out of jobs, the economy wasn\'t in such a poor state and the war in iraq wasn\'t a blunder I wouldn\'t have a problem with bush at all.

I mean this country is in a sad state. I mean so many people are out of work it\'s scary. And healthcare in this country is at it\'s worst.

And bush will put more judges in office and they will continue to make sure that the little guy never gets a dime.

Originally posted by SirMystiq
Stem-cell, abortion, gay rights and separation of Church and state are at stake now for the following four years.

Giga...If I remember correctly alot of people trusted Bush just because of "morals"

This country is DIVIDED heavily. 4million votes isn\'t really that much of a difference. I really hope(probably in vain) that Bush won\'t begin to make choices due to his religion.

Four more years...

Mystiq - really... the religious stuff is getting old.  I have read 3 different threads now and you keep saying the same thing about how Bush is going to turn this country into a theocracy.

Come back to reality buddy, that is not going to happen.  To put it another way - you can start to worry when we make this an English only country and if it makes you feel any better my wife and I voted for Bush and are not religious at all - t wasn\'t a factor for us.  Then again I don\'t knock someone for having faith.

What has divided this country is the election of 2000 and the War in Iraq - not religion.

And Quddus - the economy is not bad at all.  Ask any economist.

Originally posted by GigaShadow

And Quddus - the economy is not bad at all.  Ask any economist.

I am no economist but I don\'t see how can a country be doing great when many of the working people that fuel this country are out of work.

We had a company shut down a few weeks ago 3000 people are out of work. The job market is already non-existent as it is up here. My friend has been trying to find a job for two months. And he graduated with his B.A. He has got to a point were he needs money and will take anything.

The country is only as divided as people are allowing it to be. If people want to be so anti-Bush, and so left-sided, and don\'t want to just put all this party bullshit aside, then the country will become divided. The most disappointing thing from this election I\'ve seen is how bitter many democrats have become, and are pulling these "division" cards left and right.

So you\'re saying that people should just put up or shut up?  Yes, democrats are vocal, but it\'s primarily because the main issues we support, stated numerous times already in this thread, are issues Bush and most "moral" republicans are against.  We have a right to stand up and speak up about our beliefs as that\'s what our founding fathers intended.

Don\'t worry though as it seems many of the primarily democratic states are taking matters into their own hands when it comes to particular issues.  California (yah, go us!) will support a women\'s right to choose so long as we have a female democratic senator and we\'ve already started our own stem cell research initiative.  When we are able to produce the technology that saves lives, we\'ll get out of our deficit by selling it to the rest of the US.  

[Titan]

Originally posted by QuDDus
My friend has been trying to find a job for two months. And he graduated with his B.A. He has got to a point were he needs money and will take anything.

That\'s one reason I am going into the military, along with the myriad of other reasons. If I can\'t find a job, I can go in full time until something opens up somewhere. But, a lot of people don\'t want to do that, even though they are always looking for troops (although its very understandable since we\'re at war why no one would enter for money). Its gotta be something you want.

If I can\'t find a job, I can go in full time until something opens up somewhere.

Are you talking about becoming like a weekend warrior or something like that?

Anyways, I think serving in the US military should be one of the most lucrative jobs in the US.  We shouldn\'t be wasting money on missile defense systems and bunker busting nuclear weapons, but rather on making the military a profession that earns 80+k a year with full benefits for the personel and for their families with fully paid for college tuition for their children.  All of America trusts our troops with protecting the nation, we should be giving them some of the best treatment on Earth for it.  It is the most dangerous job in the world afterall.

Originally posted by Ryu


Anyways, I think serving in the US military should be one of the most lucrative jobs in the US.  We shouldn\'t be wasting money on missile defense systems and bunker busting nuclear weapons, but rather on making the military a profession that earns 80+k a year with full benefits for the personel and for their families with fully paid for college tuition for their children.  All of America trusts our troops with protecting the nation, we should be giving them some of the best treatment on Earth for it.  It is the most dangerous job in the world afterall.

Hah... My dad would love to have you as president then. He isn\'t exactly in the line of fire, but he has busted his ass off for the government.

Hah... My dad would love to have you as president then. He isn\'t exactly in the line of fire, but he has busted his ass off for the government.

But it\'s the truth.  Sure, some of the military are not in the line of fire, but an FBI agent or director makes FAR MORE money then anyone in the military and yet they aren\'t on the front lines every day staring the enemy in the face.  If we\'re going to ask volunteers to put their lives on the line for our safety, we should be showing our appreciation, not by ridiculing their actions or the actions of their leader, but by offering them a benefits package that would make serving in the military a job that would, at some point, cross anyone\'s mind as a distinct possibility.

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Originally posted by QuDDus
I am no economist but I don\'t see how can a country be doing great when many of the working people that fuel this country are out of work.

We had a company shut down a few weeks ago 3000 people are out of work. The job market is already non-existent as it is up here. My friend has been trying to find a job for two months. And he graduated with his B.A. He has got to a point were he needs money and will take anything.

tru no doubt! as of 10 am this morning we get to find out on my job about our outsourcing situation. it\'s weird even tho the u.s. is losin\' jobs i still feel bush is the better leader here...od course i don\'t agree with his iraq policy (should be known by all by now) it\'s just that i\'m smart enough to know that big business is what runs america..and guess who\'s in the white house? that\'s right a rich person..kerry is right up there with bush when it comes to the job situation..

the rich get richer and the poor stay poorer...big business will lace the current admin. pockets in exchange for policies that suit them..i know that in reality that these cats don\'t give a f**k about the middle class that\'s busting they\'re a$$ to make it happen..but i felt he\'s the better of the two evils...these rich bastards can\'t relate to a motherf*cker that grew up with nothing and made something of himself..to me that\'s the type of people we need to be pres...not these rich candidates that say they can relate..it\'s all bulls**t..end of rant...

Yeah Bush doesn\'t care about the middle class :rolleyes: I guess that check I got last year was just my imagination.

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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Yeah Bush doesn\'t care about the middle class :rolleyes: I guess that check I got last year was just my imagination.

giga i already stated numerous times about how bush is at least givin something back to the people...where\'s your memory at? bottomline is that the rich will always stick together...and if you really think these people have your best interest at hand,..think again...

my thing is i just think more common people need to be on the scene in terms of the presidency...people more in touch with reality...

The problem is clips - you need money to run for President.

[GmanJoe]

I read somewhere....I can\'t recall....that the poor and the rich benefitted most from the Bush administration. The middle class got taxed more.

But here\'s something that will never change - the rich will always be rich no matter which party is in office.

Look at it in its most simplest form - The rich hire the middle class, the tax from middle class take care of the poor. Unfortunately, the poor have a far higher birth rate than the any of the two groups. So go figure. It\'s a mess.

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yea i agree with both gman & giga..and on another note..you gotta forgive me a bit..i just found out our company are outsourcing our IT dept...

so giga and gman..you want that supersized? ...sheeit i\'m joking about it but it\'s really a f**ked up feeling...been here for 15 years and now this...just a sign of the times tho...we have up until april of 05...hopefully i\'ll find something else or maybe i\'ll just go with the outsourcing company....in any case i\'m gonna have to man up and deal with it..