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« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2004, 07:59:47 AM »
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What do all of those countries have in common Ginko? They are small with small populations. This discussion has taken place before on this board regarding Sweden and its decades long control of its population in order to achieve a balance so that the government could subsidide "welfare".


You don\'t support it because you\'d rather have your near 500 dollar a month extra bill be called "healthcare" then to have that extra revenue called "taxes."  You think keeping health care a privilidge is somehow better for a nation of 250 million where 125 million of them are without a basic necessity of life.  People should be guaranteed it, not shunned from it.  It works for you though because you have it.  Until you\'re without it, you can\'t understand where I\'m coming from.

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First Ryu lives in a fantasy world.


Wrong.  I think we can change and we can change for the better, but here\'s a little bit of reality for you:

Reality: This country is a train wreck.
Reality: It\'s people like you that make it that way.
Reality: It\'s people like you who think that\'s a good thing.
Reality: Until people like you actually explore the quality of living below the poverty line, you\'ll never understand where I\'m coming from with this one.  Why it\'s so important that we care for everyone.  It doesn\'t have to be your way or the highway.

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Secondly, didn\'t I warn you a while back about your profanity Mystiq? This is your last warning - tone it down.


Why?  I said bullshit.  LiC says bullshit in other forums.  We\'re all adults here.  If the word was bad, I\'m sure the censor would have caught it.

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He was elected because of terrorism and national security.


Don\'t forget homosexual marriage.  This was quite possibly the biggest reason.  Even carry didn\'t support it, but he didn\'t discuss it as much as Bush did.  He didn\'t think it was a key topic.  Obviously, he was wrong amazingly enough.

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Illegals should be deported along with their kids. I disagree just because someone is born here they get automatic citizenship regardless of their parents status.


If you\'re Native American, I can see where you\'re coming from.  If you\'re not, then please stfu.  Otherwise, you should have to leave as well.  Just because you\'ve been here longer doesn\'t give you some kind of immunity to it all.  We were all illegals at some point with the exception of Native Americans.

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Well, I could for my son, but my wife had cancer 6 years ago and she is a "high risk" applicant so they would deny her. I suck it up and pay because I have to.


And you somehow think this is the better system to have?  One where you have to pay more because someone in your family had a lethal disease?  Heh.  Then you\'d prefer to pay more for more prisons as your solution to crime?  Man, you baffle me a great deal good sir.
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« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2004, 08:28:33 AM »
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You don\'t support it because you\'d rather have your near 500 dollar a month extra bill be called "healthcare" then to have that extra revenue called "taxes."  You think keeping health care a privilidge is somehow better for a nation of 250 million where 125 million of them are without a basic necessity of life.  People should be guaranteed it, not shunned from it.  It works for you though because you have it.  Until you\'re without it, you can\'t understand where I\'m coming from.


See Canada.  Enough said.


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Wrong.  I think we can change and we can change for the better, but here\'s a little bit of reality for you:

Reality: This country is a train wreck.


Reality: Really, how is the country a train wreck compared to the past 15 years?  You have no clue.

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Reality: It\'s people like you that make it that way.


Reality:  It\'s people like you that want free handouts and think the government owes them something.  Frankly it is sickening.

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Reality: It\'s people like you who think that\'s a good thing.


Yes I do, if that means everyone has to earn their own way.

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Reality: Until people like you actually explore the quality of living below the poverty line, you\'ll never understand where I\'m coming from with this one.  Why it\'s so important that we care for everyone.  It doesn\'t have to be your way or the highway.


Stop whining and expecting the government to take care of you.  It won\'t happen.  Do something about it and make your quality of living better.  That is the principle idea of this country... you are the master of your own destiny.

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Why?  I said bullshit.  LiC says bullshit in other forums.  We\'re all adults here.  If the word was bad, I\'m sure the censor would have caught it.


He uses it repeatedly and sounds like a 12 year old pitching a temper tantrum.  As I stated I don\'t mind profanity here and there, but it is an every post occurrance lately with him.  You are also wrong about the "all adults here" part.  Mystiq for one is not an adult.  The ony thing excessive profanity does in here is take away from the point one is trying to make.

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If you\'re Native American, I can see where you\'re coming from.  If you\'re not, then please stfu.  Otherwise, you should have to leave as well.  Just because you\'ve been here longer doesn\'t give you some kind of immunity to it all.  We were all illegals at some point with the exception of Native Americans.


Native American?  This country was not founded by them.  Don\'t use the lame excuse that "they were here first and we stole their land" crap.  Really... the point is moot.  Illegals here now have no right to be here and should be deported.  Hence, the name illegal.


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And you somehow think this is the better system to have?  One where you have to pay more because someone in your family had a lethal disease?  Heh.  Then you\'d prefer to pay more for more prisons as your solution to crime?  Man, you baffle me a great deal good sir.


You really have no idea what the costs would be for national healthcare.  Even Kerry\'s plan which didn\'t cover everyone was astronomical.  You do indeed live on another planet and it goes by the name of Kalifornia.
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« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2004, 09:30:03 PM »
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What do all of those countries have in common Ginko?  They are small with small populations.  This discussion has taken place before on this board regarding Sweden and its decades long control of its population in order to achieve a balance so that the government could subsidide "welfare".


Not just small populations though, Japan has a very large population, not to mention very dense, and it has one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

As of July 2004 there is an estimated 127 million people living in Japan.  >>>Link<<<

If it can work for that big of a population then I don\'t see why something else couldn\'t work here.  I know we have roughly 300 million people but I don\'t see that as a reason to just let the crime rate slide.  It\'s broke, fix it.

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« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2004, 10:54:05 PM »
My friend who was stationed in Japan said it\'s kind of a weird place, seems like everyone is in their own little world.  He also said you could leave your cellphone on a park bench, come back an hour later and it would still be there.

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« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2004, 12:01:56 AM »
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First Ryu lives in a fantasy world.  Secondly, didn\'t I warn you a while back about your profanity Mystiq?  This is your last warning - tone it down.  I don\'t mind it, but every post from you lately begins with a profanity laced comment.  What "Christian values" has the Bush administration "slapped in your face Mystiq"?  I recall asking you this countless times, yet you never answer.  


 

So Bush was elected because of the issue of abortion?  You are a complete idiot Mystiq.  He was elected because of terrorism and national security.  "Made their people vote for him?" :laughing:

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/35336.htm



 

WTF are you talking about?  Another incoherent statement from Mystiq...  



Roe v. Wade overturned?  Won\'t happen.  Homosexual marriage.  Three quarters of the country opposes it - that means even some liberals opposed it so don\'t try and hang that one soley on Conservatives.  What is wrong with learning about Creationism as well as evolution?  Should a child have right to choose what they believe?



This country was founded on the principles of Christianity which helped guide and shape its foundation.  Sorry if you don\'t want to accept that, but it is a fact.  

 

Illegals should be deported along with their kids.  I disagree just because someone is born here they get automatic citizenship regardless of their parents status.

 

I could actually get cheaper insurance - go online and get a quote from any health insurance provider and you will see it doesn\'t have to cost that much.  Why don\'t I do that you ask?  Well, I could for my son, but my wife had cancer 6 years ago and she is a "high risk" applicant so they would deny her.  I suck it up and pay because I have to.

 

Semi racist?  Isn\'t that you ranting on about whitey?  BTW are you a member of MEChA or La Raza? ;)


Ryu lives in a fantasy world?
I don\'t recall him saying that we should deport all illegal immigrants.

Ryu should be legally known as "Ryu-A true American"

I\'m an idiot? Where there not countless stories and news reports about how people were swayed to vote for Bush because of "moral" issues? I used abortion as an example but appereantly you love taking everything literally. And are you denying that many Christians pastors endorsed Bush and urged their congregation vote for him?

There is nothing wrong with learning about creationism. What book should it go into though? Science? Not at all, this is just Christians TAKING ADVANTAGE of their Christian leaning leaders.

This country was founded on some ethics of Christianity. How did it help mold this country?

Illegals should be deported with their kids. HA...too late. Really talk about reality. Just to make you hate me more...I\'m a citizen under the very same circumstances that you presented.

I\'m a member of neither. And I\'m not "ranting" I\'m just stating the obvious.

And the FACT that Ryu presented about Native American\'s aren\'t lame. It\'s just hard to accept you\'re own hypocrisy isn\'t it?
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« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2004, 05:14:45 AM »
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Ryu lives in a fantasy world?
I don\'t recall him saying that we should deport all illegal immigrants.

Ryu should be legally known as "Ryu-A true American"

I\'m an idiot? Where there not countless stories and news reports about how people were swayed to vote for Bush because of "moral" issues? I used abortion as an example but appereantly you love taking everything literally. And are you denying that many Christians pastors endorsed Bush and urged their congregation vote for him?


First of all Christian pastors can\'t endorse candidates they would lose their tax exemption status - look at the problems the NAACP has run into for endorsing a candidate.

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There is nothing wrong with learning about creationism. What book should it go into though? Science? Not at all, this is just Christians TAKING ADVANTAGE of their Christian leaning leaders.
Huh?  What?

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This country was founded on some ethics of Christianity. How did it help mold this country?


The reference to God is in almost every major document authored by our founding fathers.  These documents are the underlying foundation of our society.

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Illegals should be deported with their kids. HA...too late. Really talk about reality. Just to make you hate me more...I\'m a citizen under the very same circumstances that you presented.


There have been rumblings on the right lately that have grown louder wanting to expel all of the "invaders" who come from Mexico.  Bush is even feeling backlash for his stance on wanting to legalize illegals.  I could say more... but it would just upset you.

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I\'m a member of neither.


That is willing suspension of disbelief.

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And the FACT that Ryu presented about Native American\'s aren\'t lame. It\'s just hard to accept you\'re own hypocrisy isn\'t it?


Since we are on the subject of Native American\'s - the Spanish committed far worse atrocities then the Anglo\'s in the grand scheme of things.  I am sure that FACT will be hard for you to digest.
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« Reply #51 on: November 30, 2004, 07:45:31 AM »
I just don\'t have time in the mornings to respond at length to your posts like I\'d prefer to -- I did it yesterday and was almost late for class -- but I will address them later on when I have more time.  I do want to tackle this one point here though before then.

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Since we are on the subject of Native American\'s - the Spanish committed far worse atrocities then the Anglo\'s in the grand scheme of things. I am sure that FACT will be hard for you to digest.


I\'m not talking about us stealing land or committing atrocities against the Indians although that is something we did at gret length.  I\'m talking about us Americans all being immigrants.  The only thing that sets us apart from other "illegal" immigrants is the fact that so many conservative whites somehow think their generational seniority is somehow paramount.  It somehow exempts them from all this stupid talk about deporting "illegal" immigrants when they themselves are actually no different from those people they\'re trying to get rid of.

But why deport them at all?  What makes YOU any better then them?  What, because you think they\'re "illegal"?  Immigrants making laws against other immigrants doesn\'t somehow make them different and excluded from some outlandish deportation laws that you propose.  Regardless, I don\'t even understand why you\'d want to do something like that, but before you have a chance to respond, here\'s some fuel for the fire:

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« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2004, 07:58:05 AM »
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I just don\'t have time in the mornings to respond at length to your posts like I\'d prefer to -- I did it yesterday and was almost late for class -- but I will address them later on when I have more time.  I do want to tackle this one point here though before then.





:laughing: I know exactly what you mean.  It seems I get to respond in the mornings and others respond late at night.

Anyway, illegal is illegal - they are breaking the law.  Most of the  money they earn here doesn\'t stay here, but instead heads back to Mexico.  

Another thing that irritates me about illegal aliens and immigrants from Mexico is their refusal to learn English.  Instead they still want to speak Spanish and our government obliges them by printing documents in Spanish at our expense.  

Call me arrogant, but my family has served, fought and died for this country for generations.  I am proud of my heritage and it is that heritage that built this country.  So it sickens me to see someone come to this country illegally, crap on the culture my ancestors helped build, reap benefits at my expense and then send most of whatever they make back to Mexico or whatever banana republic they came from.  Illegals shouldn\'t have any rights and should be deported back to the country of their orgin.  If you want to come here do it legally.
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« Reply #53 on: November 30, 2004, 12:53:57 PM »
Banana Republic...

HA!
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« Reply #54 on: November 30, 2004, 12:58:02 PM »
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« Reply #55 on: November 30, 2004, 11:23:54 PM »
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:laughing: I know exactly what you mean.  It seems I get to respond in the mornings and others respond late at night.

Anyway, illegal is illegal - they are breaking the law.  Most of the  money they earn here doesn\'t stay here, but instead heads back to Mexico.  

Another thing that irritates me about illegal aliens and immigrants from Mexico is their refusal to learn English.  Instead they still want to speak Spanish and our government obliges them by printing documents in Spanish at our expense.  

Call me arrogant, but my family has served, fought and died for this country for generations.  I am proud of my heritage and it is that heritage that built this country.  So it sickens me to see someone come to this country illegally, crap on the culture my ancestors helped build, reap benefits at my expense and then send most of whatever they make back to Mexico or whatever banana republic they came from.  Illegals shouldn\'t have any rights and should be deported back to the country of their orgin.  If you want to come here do it legally.


Is that whitey whining?

You aren\'t the only one that pays taxes buddy. I work. I pay taxes. Teachers work they pay taxes. The governor of Arizona works. He pays taxes.

This just isn\'t about you.
This isn\'t about all the crap you said.
This is just about how much people have centered themselves around their materialistic property that would rather take a dump on a homeless guy than help him out. I have no anger when I pay taxes because I\'m grateful for what I earn and I have no problem helping others out. That is what Americans did. THAT IS THIS COUTRY\'S HERITAGE. That is what this country was built on.

You have turned it into what concerns you and you\'re money.

Who craps on you\'re culture Giga?
What is the American culture Giga?

English? Hamburgers? Or the DIVERSE backgrounds of the many inhabitants of this country? Isn\'t this countries heritage that of being multi-cultural? It has always been that way.

If you want to come here do it legally. Yeah, because it\'s so damn easy huh? If you had any idea of what those people have to live through you\'re eyes would actually open. But you don\'t. You speak out of your butt and smear mud on your eyes.

Both of my cousins are in the military right now. My aunt is married to a veteran. Please dude. There are many soldiers right now in Iraq that come from illegal families.

There is NO need to learn English. Spanish is almost a second language here. It must be learned if you want to go anywhere. I know you don\'t think so and I know you feel awful allowing yourself or any of your family to learn it because it\'s not your "culture"-whatever that could be.

This country needs illegal workers. This country is kept together by those workers who do the jobs for cheap. Who work for nothing. Who take up jobs that you middle class to upper class Americans who sit at your computer whining aren\'t willing to do.

Please dude. Don\'t walk outside. You might step on pavement that an illegal made for you. Don\'t drive. You might drive on a street that an illegal made for you. Don\'t go grocery shopping. You might eat a frut that an illegal picked for you for a low amount of money under the hot sun.

America is the land of dreams. Too bad Americans don\'t let it be.
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« Reply #56 on: December 01, 2004, 12:30:28 AM »
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Is that whitey whining?

If you want to come here do it legally. Yeah, because it\'s so damn easy huh? If you had any idea of what those people have to live through you\'re eyes would actually open. But you don\'t. You speak out of your butt and smear mud on your eyes.

There is NO need to learn English. Spanish is almost a second language here. It must be learned if you want to go anywhere. I know you don\'t think so and I know you feel awful allowing yourself or any of your family to learn it because it\'s not your "culture"-whatever that could be.

This country needs illegal workers. This country is kept together by those workers who do the jobs for cheap. Who work for nothing. Who take up jobs that you middle class to upper class Americans who sit at your computer whining aren\'t willing to do.

Please dude. Don\'t walk outside. You might step on pavement that an illegal made for you. Don\'t drive. You might drive on a street that an illegal made for you. Don\'t go grocery shopping. You might eat a frut that an illegal picked for you for a low amount of money under the hot sun.

America is the land of dreams. Too bad Americans don\'t let it be.


You yourself said Americans weren\'t willing to do the jobs so the illegal workers do.  It\'s just that though, they aren\'t americans, nor should they be.  Thus the term illegal.  I don\'t care what they do for me, the job is going to be done one way or another, illegal is illegal is illegal.  

Yet again, why should we bend over backwords so people can come here for the better life yet retain their same old language.  Some of you just want everything your way.  We\'re in America, speak English.

.....is the whitey whining....you\'re really showing your age and ignorance
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« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2004, 04:43:47 AM »
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Is that whitey whining?

You aren\'t the only one that pays taxes buddy. I work. I pay taxes.



Sorry buddy. Had to stop there.

You are a student.  You are exempt from taxes.  I pay your taxes.  And a hell of a lot of them.
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« Reply #58 on: December 01, 2004, 07:55:34 AM »
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Semi racist?  Isn\'t that you ranting on about whitey?  BTW are you a member of MEChA or La Raza? ;)


Yeah...I guess that statement doesn\'t show his age and ignorance does it Bozco.

Vid last time I checked I get over 60 dollars in deductions.
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« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2004, 08:24:32 AM »
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What do all of those countries have in common Ginko?  They are small with small populations.  This discussion has taken place before on this board regarding Sweden and its decades long control of its population in order to achieve a balance so that the government could subsidide "welfare".


What control is that?

Please dont bring up the sterilisation shit you talked about back then. It had nothing to do with controlling the number of people living in the country.
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