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Offline GigaShadow
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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2004, 04:12:22 PM »
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Funniest post ever from you, Giga.  You totaly lash out at my healthcare plan and say you don\'t want to pay taxes for people being lazy asses and somehow "swindeling" a healthcare for all system, yet you would be willing to pay far more taxes for more prisons, more guards, and invest more land to feed, clothe, and care for far more prisoners.  That\'s f*cking beautiful.  You\'re awesome man.  You\'d care for people who break the law and pay more money for them on a daily basis then to pay for other people getting taken care of who are law abiding citizens.  That\'s sweet.



 


Glad you got a laugh out of it, but if you privatize the prison system and bid out contracts to companies to run prisons they can be self sufficient.  Make prisoners work for their care and there will be no burden on the taxpayer.  More jobs at these prisons will also put more back into the economy as new jobs will be created.
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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2004, 04:17:08 PM »
My friend gets angry on pot, but he\'s a rare case (it\'s gotta be laced with something). Everyone else is tame and layed back :) Which is what it\'s supposed to do. It\'s definitely a lot less harmful (to others in terms of attitude and physical action) then, for example, alcohol. As long as you stay at home and aren\'t driving (won\'t drive with my friend ever again...he was high and almost got me killed on the freeway).

Drugs in general are bad, but if you\'re going to do it anyway...pot would be the best thing, as it won\'t make you go kill someone.

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Just for education and I don\'t really think that is a socialist idea. I freely admit healthcare is way overpriced as is college tuition, but I feel college tuition has gotten entirely out of control when compared to other services in this country.
I agree. College costs an arm and a leg. A lot of people spend the remainder of their life paying off college loans. That\'s just not right.

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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2004, 05:25:33 PM »
The general consensus is that yes, drugs are "bad" but marijuana is the least dangerous and perhaps.. should be legalized.

For those of you who agree with the legalization, would you disagree with the idea that marijuana legalization would lead to every currently illegal drug being also legalized? I doubt it\'ll end at marijuana.
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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2004, 06:12:24 PM »
Problem with legalizing marijuana from the governments standpoint, is that its so far underground and traffic\'d from other countries and our own that it\'d be almost impossible to tax. I don\'t mind it being legal, but taxing would be a very big task for the government. As far as prison systems go, I say we just deport them to France, or rather we could build a wall in a state where no one really lives and leave them there. ;)

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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2004, 07:21:27 PM »
1) Proportional Electoral college:  It really doesn\'t work like this.  States are still weighted and populular areas still get more delegates, but damn, not the whole state.

2) Have to have a high school diploma to vote.  I\'m sorry, but if you can\'t pass high school, how in the hell can you make an informed decision on who you want to be in office?


Those are my first two thoughts.

Oh, the pot thing.  I don\'t really see a need to legalize it.  It\'s not like it\'s good for you.  Why do we really need it?
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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2004, 09:11:18 PM »
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Just for education and I don\'t really think that is a socialist idea.  I freely admit healthcare is way overpriced as is college tuition, but I feel college tuition has gotten entirely out of control when compared to other services in this country.
You are a hypocrite. For one enforcing ANY government regulation or controls on the cost of something is a socialist policy and if the government were to make it free it would cost a lot of money. In the same vein of your arguments against universal health care, how are we supposed to pay for all of these kids\' educations?

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Legalization of pot and other drugs?  The war on drugs is racist?  Please...  build more prisons.
I\'ve been doing a criminal justice report on this for the past couple of months so I know that this is fact. The usage reports show that whites use and sell more drugs than blacks, latinos, and asians yet blacks and latinos make up the majority of all drug arrests and convictions.

5 grams of crack cocaine(a drug associated with blacks) gets you 5 years in prison while you need 500 grams of powder cocaine(a drug associated with whites) to get the same penalty.

If you really want to sit there and say that the answer to crime is more prisons then you TRULY have your head entrenched in your ass. Its just not that simple.
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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2004, 11:36:46 PM »
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Like we need Europe to tell us what is wrong with our country and how to fix it.  :rolleyes:

By reading the above reply I guess being realistic isn\'t part of the thought process...

As for making America better - take us out of the UN.  Kick the UN out of NY and start creating alliances with countries that are in tune with us economically and diplomatically.

Do away with welfare and affirmative action.  

Impose strict immigration rules and deport all illegal aliens immediately.

Drastically reduce college tuition or make it all together free.

Build more prisons and actually enforce the law.  Too many people get a slap on the wrist because our jails are overcrowded.  Instead of releasing them or "legalizing" illegal substances - just make more room for the criminals and as a bonus more jobs will be created.


LOL!

Maybe we should check the definition of "realistic" again...

And while we are at it let\'s segregate schools once again!

I would do everything OPPOSITE of that.

Make America less arrogant and selfish. Instead of do it our way all the time we need to cooparate with the entire world for it. Not just the ones that think alike. That is stupid. Very stupid. Shit, that is beyond stupid.

Fix Welfare so that people don\'t take advantage of it. I don\'t know, set up a program where people have to show gradual increase in income or at least working hard. Not all people in Welfare are dirt poor thieves you know.

Keep affirmative action until all the racist and Giga-thinkers are gone.

"Earned" legalization. B/c if we are being realistically here. Deporting all illegal immigrants would be a BIG bitch. Impossible. And the economy would feel it. The job market will feel it. And the rich white families would have nobody to mow their lawn. Feed their kids. Or wash their dishes.

So like some Democrats have proposed have to where people who have made their lives in this country. Have had a clean criminal record. Show investment in this economy and even held a job where they actually PAY taxes (Like most illegal immigrants with families-mine is no exception) Are putting their kids thru college (or about to) and so on.

Basically families who have lived the American dream and that REPRESENT what the American dream is all about.

I actually agree with the college tutition stuff. Impossible but it\'s a nice thought.

and I agree with everything BS has said. Except legalization of Marijuana and other drugs.

Also I would make hate crimes against gays punishable. And make the penalties more severe.

Also MORE PROTECTION TO ANIMALS!

Shit, they deserve this world more than any of us selfish, stupid and destructive humans.

And put politicians that are actually honest, have ingegrity and are able to separate their own believes from their job as the leaders of this country...

LOL, yeah and while we are at that let\'s put Santa as our embassador to France.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2004, 11:40:25 PM by SirMystiq »
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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2004, 11:48:53 PM »
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Giga has been spending too much time on Stormfront.org :p

jk


LOL


I\'m about to sign up as a member!

Did you see their requirements for some scholarship?

"Any white person attending an institution of higher learning in the United States at least half time (6 semester hours) in the Fall of 2004."

I have Spanish blood. Spain is in Europe. So does that count?

Essay topic:
 White Americans are oppressed by inimical state and federal governments, an antagonistic judiciary and legal environment, an anti-white media that degrades our culture and undermines our moral legitimacy, an invasion of legal and illegal immigration, a discriminatory job market, anti-white preferences in college admissions and scholarships, and confiscatory tax rates and government-induced inflation that make raising white children and providing security for our future a financial burden. Our elected representatives generally refuse to represent our interests to the degree necessary to affect these policies in a significant way.

Shit are white people that bad in life?

I don\'t know. They did have a huge head start over any minority. Due to their oppression...

You know my friend Charles won a scholarship from the National Hispanic Heritage fund. And he is "white" Actually he traced his family and saw that he had a latino root and he won the award!
And my friend Theresa(She\'s asian) won a scholarship because she wrote an essay in Spanish.

See, she is Tri-Lingual (Spanish, Vietnamese and English).

 But then again knowing Spanish won\'t get you anything in life right Giga?


http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=168215

Stupid people.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2004, 11:50:32 PM by SirMystiq »
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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2004, 05:57:50 AM »
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You are a hypocrite. For one enforcing ANY government regulation or controls on the cost of something is a socialist policy and if the government were to make it free it would cost a lot of money. In the same vein of your arguments against universal health care, how are we supposed to pay for all of these kids\' educations?


Raise taxes on tobacco and alcohol and use state lottery funds for grants.  That is how you pay for it.  Many states already do this in regards to the lottery, but combine that with tobacco and alcohol revenue in addition to reviewing the overpriced cost of tuition - a solution could be found.

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I\'ve been doing a criminal justice report on this for the past couple of months so I know that this is fact. The usage reports show that whites use and sell more drugs than blacks, latinos, and asians yet blacks and latinos make up the majority of all drug arrests and convictions.

5 grams of crack cocaine(a drug associated with blacks) gets you 5 years in prison while you need 500 grams of powder cocaine(a drug associated with whites) to get the same penalty.

If you really want to sit there and say that the answer to crime is more prisons then you TRULY have your head entrenched in your ass. Its just not that simple.


Where are these "facts" regarding whites selling and using more drugs?  I suppose more whites use pot, but you are quoting drugs like cocaine.

You have been watching too much of The Wire.  Next thing you know you are going to tell me that the entire judicial system in the US is racist because minorities compromise the largest percentage of the prison population. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2004, 06:07:09 AM »
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LOL


I\'m about to sign up as a member!

Did you see their requirements for some scholarship?

"Any white person attending an institution of higher learning in the United States at least half time (6 semester hours) in the Fall of 2004."

I have Spanish blood. Spain is in Europe. So does that count?

Essay topic:
 White Americans are oppressed by inimical state and federal governments, an antagonistic judiciary and legal environment, an anti-white media that degrades our culture and undermines our moral legitimacy, an invasion of legal and illegal immigration, a discriminatory job market, anti-white preferences in college admissions and scholarships, and confiscatory tax rates and government-induced inflation that make raising white children and providing security for our future a financial burden. Our elected representatives generally refuse to represent our interests to the degree necessary to affect these policies in a significant way.

Shit are white people that bad in life?

I don\'t know. They did have a huge head start over any minority. Due to their oppression...

You know my friend Charles won a scholarship from the National Hispanic Heritage fund. And he is "white" Actually he traced his family and saw that he had a latino root and he won the award!
And my friend Theresa(She\'s asian) won a scholarship because she wrote an essay in Spanish.

See, she is Tri-Lingual (Spanish, Vietnamese and English).

 But then again knowing Spanish won\'t get you anything in life right Giga?


http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=168215

Stupid people.


No these are stupid people:

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« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2004, 06:45:36 AM »
Proportional representation:hello stupidity.

Stupidity: hello proportional representation.

3 states would control the country it\'s not a good idea.(that is if I\'m thinking of is actually proportional rep...if not hi)
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« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2004, 06:51:20 AM »
States would have the exact same number of votes as before.  It\'s just now the entire state of california is controlled by LA, New York is controlled by NYC.

Nothing changes in the regards to state control. What it gives is more City control.
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« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2004, 07:23:15 AM »
Exactly, it gives urban areas more control over rural areas.
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« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2004, 07:29:11 AM »
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Raise taxes on tobacco and alcohol and use state lottery funds for grants. That is how you pay for it. Many states already do this in regards to the lottery, but combine that with tobacco and alcohol revenue in addition to reviewing the overpriced cost of tuition - a solution could be found.


California already does this, as does New York.  In fact, it\'s taxed so bad in those states that it\'s unfathomable how people can throw money away in regards to it.  It is not a working solution.
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« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2004, 07:35:41 AM »
Really, well most of the country doesn\'t pay higher taxes on those items.  Alabama doesn\'t even have a lottery and people here wonder why we don\'t have money for education.

Raising property taxes slightly in certain areas can also contribute.  Do you know that alot of the tax money from wealthier states goes to poorer states?  If that didn\'t happen states like NY and CA would have more funds as well.

I never claimed to be a financial expert, but if you are saying it is unfathomable to increase taxes on those items, how can you justify increasing taxes in general across the board for healthcare?  Not everyone goes to college, while you are proposing everyone gets free healthcare?  

Quality of schools for the most part have a direct correlation to how much property taxes any given community pays.
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