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Offline Deadly Hamster
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And people wonder why \'liberal\' is a bad word?
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2005, 02:14:18 PM »
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What wasn\'t so bad? All you have to do is read the article. It will tell every American why they deserve to die at the hands of Arab Terrorists.

This man is an unabashed cheerleader for our enemies. He applauds them, but is unhappy they were as restrained as they were. He points out with hope how many more such attacks are required to even the score.

This man is a terrorist who lacks the fortitude to actually kill Americans on his own, so he contents himself to merely applaud those who do, and hopes the death toll is as high as possible.

I agree, with one major excetpion: I hope those who die are only those who agree with him.

 


I do not agree with him about the reality of the militant actions against the US. He believes they are wide-spread and come from a centeralized group, where as I believe it is actually just terrorist hit-n-run attacks, not a "war".
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2005, 02:33:02 PM »
That doesn\'t really matter. He believes we deserve to die at their hands. Do you agree with him on that.
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2005, 02:53:34 PM »
I don\'t believe anyone "deserves" to die.

But I do believe that the American citizens are really not paying attention to anything, and I think the population is too cynical about politics, and because of this cynicism, it allows bad people to control the direction of our society.
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2005, 05:38:28 PM »
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That terrorism is a result of American foreign policy.

He surley is NOT the first one to present that view.



i\'ve always agreed with this notion to some degree...even tho i felt no one should have died on 911, and felt that the u.s. needed to respond in some fashion, at the same time i\'ve always questioned how our gov\'t treats other countries for the sake of u.s. interests...i have to assume at some point that they are bein treated unfairly on some level due to our foreign policy....

had to also add that i think it\'s little bit of both in which that the terrorists are mad about some foreign policy issues, but at the same time, some are just evil men anyway who want to use this excuse just to spread chaos and destruction...this doesn\'t just fall all on the amer. gov\'t... some terrorists are just assholes from the jump...
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2005, 07:24:29 PM »
Because we have the strongest economically and militarily, we give the most aid to other needy countries in the world, etc, etc... I believe that lets get away with more than say Sweden could.  Our foreign policy is very fair considering the circumstances and events going on in the world.  The Iranians have an earthquake - we send millions in aid - who else would do that for their ideological enemy?
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2005, 11:12:11 PM »
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&ncid=2026&e=3&u=/latimests/20050205/ts_latimes/hesfoughtforhisviewsnowhisjob

 

I have to give this wretched excuse of a shitsack masquerading as a human being one credit: He\'s honest enough to say what many liberals believe.

That said, he\'s still dispicable, and I can\'t think of enough horrible things to wish on him. If it were possible to be killed more than once, I\'d wish a million on him.

What a cocksucker.


You are a joke.

"He\'s honest enough to say what many liberals believe."

You really make a point. Next time you hack into somebody elses heads, can I watch you so I can learn how to do it also?


I haven\'t read the paper and don\'t intend to. The article you posted is obviously biased and in no way even attempts to view the paper in an objective view. But, you hail and worship this article because it feeds your need for "correctness" and your views.


I agree with Hamster and clips. He took this issue too far in the way he presented his opinion, but it\'s very valid for the same reasons Hamster and clips said.

It\'s also true that we are all tools of the government. Even liberals are. We are used to fuel your anger and blind visions by providing a target on which you can retaliate and not face any kind of consequence. Then they give you all sorts of news reports, stats and Republican spit to "back them up" And as a bonus, they give you a badge that you can hand out to people that you believe are true Americans.

It must feel great being part of the mainstream.


And Giga, you really shouldn\'t be boasting about all our foreing aid because you have proclaimed to the entire forums that you would be the last person to donate anything. You would just say "F\'em" and live on with your live. You might be American, but you can\'t take credit for the good deeds you don\'t support.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2005, 11:16:37 PM »
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That doesn\'t really matter. He believes we deserve to die at their hands. Do you agree with him on that.


You believe liberals deserve to die because you claim that we all think in that same manner. You believe that what I think is wrong and I should be labeled as an "unamerican" and shipped back to where I came from. You believe that if we don\'t all think alike, then the ones that think different are wrong.

Now, do I deserve to die for that?

Because your ideology is different from mine? Would you be willing to kill thousands just to make a statement? Would you be willing to kill a single human just to prove your point?

If you believe I should die because we think different, don\'t I have the right to believe you should die for the same reasons?

The terrorist did during September 11. And then we returned the favor.

Who\'s right?
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2005, 12:39:39 AM »
He believes I should die because I\'m American.

You believe I should die because I believe he should die.

Everyone has the right to be wrong, I guess.

I believe you should die if you advocate the killing of American citizens, yes. And I do think you agree with him on that level.
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2005, 03:58:37 AM »
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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2005, 05:10:42 AM »
WTF does Jerry Fallwell have to do with this?  Stop posting a picture if you aren\'t going to explain your abstract connection to the ongoing discussion.
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« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2005, 05:50:14 AM »
Jerry Falwell = Ward L. Churchill
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« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2005, 06:24:06 AM »
You are reaching.  Granted I don\'t care for Falwell, but he is no Ward Churchill.
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« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2005, 07:40:39 AM »
They are both extremists who make liberals/conservatives look bad.

Ward Churchill is a bit more extreme in how slanted his views are from the mainstream but Falwell has said a lot of things that are just as off the wall.

When you have these extreme communist liberals that vie for the fall of America you merely have to look at the extreme fascist conservatives who, in essence, want the same thing.

I just don\'t think you can take someone from the fringes of an ideology and use them as an example of what that ideology stands for.
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« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2005, 11:58:54 AM »
The scariest part is there are teachers like this across the country indoctrinating their students, forcing their radical ideology.  Take for instance my professor, Dr. Fitrakis.  Do a search for him on google, then imagine this man forcing his view on the class.  Thats what I get every other day.

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« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2005, 12:14:38 PM »
Slap him with a gyro sammich.
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