Gay Marriages Legal OR Illegal?

[Bobs_Hardware]

It\'s not natural for a man to be having sex with a man?

Pfft.. give me a break.

Perhaps if they\'re confused and they\'re trying to have a baby.

But you know the strange thing about humans is? They have sex for pleasure.

You can\'t reproduce by having sex with your hand, but I bet you all have no qualms about masturbating on a regular basis. Saying it\'s unnatural is nothing more than a matter of perspective.

[GmanJoe]

That\'s what Bob keeps whispering in my ear as he tries to unbuckle my trousers "It\'s natural, mate!". LIttle does he know, my pants were already dropped and he was just grabbing wood and tying it in weird knots.

I\'m not even against gay marriage, I just don\'t want to see someone put homosexuality on an equal plain to heterosexuality.

[Living-In-Clip]

I agree it is not natrual, because the natrual form of sex is to reproduce. You can\'t reproduce with a member of the same sex. Just like anal sex and oral sex are not really natrual.    

Still, sciene has proven some animals are homosexual. So why can\'t we accept that it may be a genetic problem? If that is the case, why hold it against them?

[Evi]

Originally posted by GmanJoe
That\'s what Bob keeps whispering in my ear as he tries to unbuckle my trousers "It\'s natural, mate!". LIttle does he know, my pants were already dropped and he was just grabbing wood and tying it in weird knots.

I think you\'re the gayest gay that ever gayed.

Still, sciene has proven some animals are homosexual. So why can\'t we accept that it may be a genetic problem? If that is the case, why hold it against them?

 

I don\'t think it\'s a problem, nor is it genetic. I think it (like everything else) is made possible by genetics, but I doubt their is any gene that dictates sexuality. It is more so a product of enviroment and development then anything. (once again, IMO). And even then so, if it was purley a choice, I don\'t care. I don\'t judge people by choices about sex.

[§ôµÏG®ïñD]

So what happens when 2 she-males wanna get married?

[Evi]

Like...transgender people or people who are born lacking a chromosome?

[§ôµÏG®ïñD]

as in maphrodites.

[Evi]

I don\'t think it\'s a problem, nor is it genetic. I think it (like everything else) is made possible by genetics, but I doubt their is any gene that dictates sexuality. It is more so a product of enviroment and development then anything. (once again, IMO).

There was a guy that was born with such a small member that they just cut it off and told the parents to raise the boy as a girl. He grew up and by the time he hit puberty, he started getting quite confused for all the feelings he had for girls. He was a big scientific case study because he grew up in an environment where he was raised as a girl, but still wasn\'t a girl at all, and exhibited the same behaviors as a male. He eventually committed suicide because scientists were constantly following him around and what have you.

Nothing has been proven by genetic means, so that can\'t be used as an arguement. Not yet, at least.

And I don\'t understand this whole environment crap talk. People are raised up in perfectly normal families, or even religious environments, and they still end up being homosexual. How did the normal environment make them homosexual? That doesn\'t make a sound arguement.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Well all signs point towards it being a combination of genes and environment. Evi, you\'re being extremely naive and ignorant if you think you understand the conditions necessary to \'create\' someone with feelings for another gender.

Who knows, Evi.. 3000 years ago, you too might have taken an 8 year old boy as your lover. Certain societies once deemed that \'natural\'.

I agree it is not natrual, because the natrual form of sex is to reproduce. You can\'t reproduce with a member of the same sex. Just like anal sex and oral sex are not really natrual.

Well, if that\'s your arguement, I can see the logic. But the majority of sex that humans have takes place for pleasure. They have moved far beyond having sex for reproduction. Hell, the whole idea of contraception is to have sex without the pesky side-effects.

[Evi]

I\'m not ignorant, and coming from you that doesn\'t mean much. I don\'t really take a stand on anything one way or the other, I\'m just trying to create conversation. I\'d rather remain neutral on this topic because it is quite controversial. Anyway, I was just giving an example, but I too feel it\'s a combination of both, which is a mix of evolutionary and cognitive psychology.

Who knows, Evi.. 3000 years ago, you too might have taken an 8 year old boy as your lover. Certain societies once deemed that \'natural\'.

Well, if that\'s your arguement, I can see the logic. But the majority of sex that humans have takes place for pleasure

People, especially evolutionists, tend to avoid that point for some stupid reason. They think reproduction is the only reason for sex. Why else would there be ten buh-jillion nerve endings in that one part of the body?

They have moved far beyond having sex for reproduction.

Sex for pleasure has been happening since all of recorded history. Even monkeys have sex for pleasure. They have sex to relieve stress, so I\'ve read.

[Bobs_Hardware]

... the only other animals on earth that have sex for pleasure are dolphins...

And I don\'t understand this whole environment crap talk.

You just admitted your ignorance.  So stfu.  And don\'t insult someone you know nothing about. I said you were being naive and ignorant because you basically admitted it yourself, and then you made a sweeping comment dismissing the whole notion of environment effecting sexuality.

And I don\'t understand this whole environment crap talk. People are raised up in perfectly normal families, or even religious environments, and they still end up being homosexual. How did the normal environment make them homosexual? That doesn\'t make a sound arguement.

So stfu. And read what I said again.

Evi, you\'re being extremely naive and ignorant if you think you understand the conditions necessary to \'create\' someone with feelings for another gender.

You were ignorant of the so called \'normal\' conditions that this person grew up in. You do not know every single possible variable (which for all intents and purposes are infinite) that would determine this persons personality.

Don\'t take it as an insult, fucktard.

[Jumpman]

no u

[Bobs_Hardware]

:eek:

u stay out of this man ok just dont go there