Originally posted by hyper
To LIC and (e):
You seem to draw some perverted sense of pride from the self-awareness of your hypocrisy. Not wanting to serve the military is perfectly fine. That you feel no remorse about leeching off others is not. Willingly doing nothing to fix the system does not mean you are somwhow wiser than those who endeavor in this "useless effort."
One person is not going to change the system. It is a useless effort no matter what, it is one I choose not take part in .
Originally posted by mm
yeah, but you\'re not part of "us"
your moral indignance seperates you from the average american.
i certainly didnt join the military to help protect people like you that look down your nose at us and say "better you than me"
Your reasons for joining the military are your own reasons. Whatever they may be, they are your own. They don\'t represent or speak for anyone else.
And when I talk about the system being fucked, I not only speak about military - but the whole system in general. For example and I\'m sure I\'ll take slack over this, let me give you an experience.
I am about to have two kids. My fiance and I both work and make a decent living. We still however wanted to take advtanage of the WIC program - something we both pay for every week with our tax money. Guess what? We couldn\'t. Why? Because we make 1K to much per yer! Do you know who can take advantage of WIC? My cousin who has two kids, by two different guys and has never held a stable job, therefor never really added anything TAX wise to these programs. It\'s nonsense.
Back to the topic of military - let me clarify something. I have great respect for those who do choose to do that with their life. It takes balls and is a brave thing to do. To risk your life at some point or another due to your country and belief and even if you don\'t go to war, you are dedicating a large portion of your life to that cause. Kudos to you. I however do not ever want to take part in it, due to the fact I don\'t believe in those value\'s. I don\'t believe in what this country is selling us as a society.
so you\'re just leeching off the people who arent afraid to serve thier country?
why not have 8 kids and live off welfare?
you are the reason "the system is fucked", by taking and taking without even considering putting anything back in
And this is what I am talking about. We have so many people taking and not putting anything back in - that it is sad. So why should I dedicate my life to help this country and those people? You made a comment about quit paying taxes, well guess what? After my experience with the WIC program, if I could quit, I would. It\'s nonsense. While you may get personal gratification out of joining the military, in the large scope, you have put something back in, but it didn\'t make a difference. It doesn\'t change people\'s minds like (E). And if you die in war, you are just another number. While some view that number as an honorable death, I view it as a statistic. It\'s not one I want to be.
