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« Reply #150 on: March 29, 2006, 08:44:28 AM »
I think you have got it backwards, mm. It will probably go PS3>XBox360>/= REV

Avatarr, The DS only sells Nintendo games. I Same as the N64 and GC for the most part, utterly destroying many chances that the system (REV) will have for getting high profile content. People just want to play their Madden or their Final Fantasys from time to time, but when Nintendo secures games like that: Baiten Kaitos, or FF:CC, or Madden, or Resident Evil:Remake, 0, or 4, etc. NOBODY has cared. Not one has been able to break a million in any given area on the GC, despite being high profile games.

The million sellers on Nintendo systems will always be straight from Nintendo and anything that says "Sonic" on it from Sega. That is about it. The mainstream developers won\'t make games for it, because it is essentially, in power, a LAST-GEN console and can\'t/won\'t do many of the tricks that PS3/360 will and can do.

That is why I think it might be relegated to last place in 2 markets (NA and EU) and second or MAYBE MAYBE MAYBE first in one market (Japan) but that is a big maybe. I really want Rev to succeed, but I am not buying it for the Virtual Console, unless they end up translating some of my old favorite Japanese roms and imports. I am interested in it for some semblance of an american FPS with the Revmote. I am sure Nintendo will cook up alot of ideas for it, but I think on whole, it will go unused and will remain a gimmick by other companies. Kind of like how many companies use the DS\' second screen as only a map or a progress screen, not having much interaction on it.
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« Reply #151 on: March 29, 2006, 01:17:16 PM »
Definitely.

Halo 3 alone secures the 360\'s second place marker. It\'s sad to think that games like Zelda or Metroid cannot beat a game like that regardless of quality. Nintendo has even lost Silicon Knights because they did not agree with their "simplicity" mentality.

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DS shows this quite conclusively. No one thought it had a shade of a chance against the PSP, but it\'s owning it purdy good.

Actually, people did not think anything can compete against the handheld giant Nintendo. The PSP was, essentially, the "underdog."

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« Reply #152 on: March 29, 2006, 01:55:58 PM »
the PSP is a complete success solely based on nobody thought it would catch on at all, regardless of how it sells compared to the DS.

hell, even UMD\'s are selling quite better than expected
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« Reply #153 on: March 29, 2006, 02:00:46 PM »
Not to mention more amazing games are coming for it now.

Powerstone Collection, Ultimate Ghosts \'n Goblins, Loco Roco, Metal Slug 1-6? Fuck yea.
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« Reply #154 on: March 29, 2006, 02:12:22 PM »
Yeah, any PSP success is good for Sony. Nobody thought they would be able to  have any success and they have done a fine job.

I would even go on to say that they aren\'t selling what they should be, what with GTA, SFA3, and other seemingly great games.

Sure, there are ALOT of ports and popular games, of which I am not really a fan. but there is a lot of original content coming out for it, too.
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« Reply #155 on: March 29, 2006, 02:23:34 PM »
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the PSP is a complete success solely based on nobody thought it would catch on at all, regardless of how it sells compared to the DS.

hell, even UMD\'s are selling quite better than expected


So by your standard the XBox is a success, right? I mean who would of thunk that MS would get into gaming and sell systems?
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« Reply #156 on: March 29, 2006, 02:53:52 PM »
anyone denying that the XBox hasn\'t been a success hasn\'t played many games in the past few years. Several million sellers, 2nd place worldwide, XBox Live community with 2 million repeat users, etc.

Now, saying that it has been profitable for MS would be lying, but then again, it hasn\'t sold 100 million like PS2.
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« Reply #157 on: March 29, 2006, 03:42:03 PM »
.01 cent profit = success
care to rephrase "xbox" to a "handful of titles"?
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« Reply #158 on: March 29, 2006, 04:16:34 PM »
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care to rephrase "xbox" to a "handful of titles"?

That\'s irrelevant since the console still sold a significant amount and gained the second place marker for a newcomer.

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.01 cent profit = success

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/news.php?aid=10470

Oh, look at this, SCE lost a lot of money too. They have barely profited from the PS2. The new slimline, at $150, is still being sold at a loss. By your standards, the Gamecube won the console wars for profiting the most from their console.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/30/nintendo_q2_results/

They don\'t sell nearly as much, but they don\'t sell at a loss anymore. Added to the fact that they have the most best selling first party games around, this all really is no surprise.

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There was one year where Microsoft gained a damn good amount of money though.


Sales
Microsoft: $34.27 billion
Nintendo: $4.26 billion
Sony: $63.23 billion

Profits
Microsoft: $8.88 billion
Nintendo: $0.57 billion
Sony: $0.98 billion

Assets
Microsoft: $85.94 billion
Nintendo: $9.06 billion
Sony: $68.04 billion

Market Value
Microsoft: $287.02 billion
Nintendo: $12.80 billion
Sony: $38.00 billion

Data from the Forbes 2000 (as of 2004)
http://www.forbes.com

2004? I wonder why?
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« Reply #159 on: March 29, 2006, 04:40:21 PM »
everything has to be a comparison with you?

i can tell you\'re not an only child

you\'re comparing total microsoft profits vs sony and nintendo?
impressive, way to support the argument  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #160 on: March 29, 2006, 04:56:35 PM »
Forbes provided the article.

Microsoft profited so I guess they are a success huh? Way to be an idiot and have nothing but broken, redundant, and (your favorite word) crippled arguments.

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« Reply #161 on: March 29, 2006, 05:03:23 PM »
so who was talking about (or comparing) microsoft\'s company wide profits again?

must be nice to change the scope of the argument at hand to support your needs

thats something clowd does
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« Reply #162 on: March 29, 2006, 05:10:20 PM »
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.01 cent profit = success

Am I not mistaken or are you not implying Microsoft wasn\'t a success because of their lack of profits? Oh, you were just saying something random in reply to altered beasts comment right?

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« Reply #163 on: March 29, 2006, 05:12:23 PM »
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Not to mention more amazing games are coming for it now.

Powerstone Collection, Ultimate Ghosts \'n Goblins, Loco Roco, Metal Slug 1-6? Fuck yea.
Metal Slug on PSP? :eek: That\'s awesome!

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« Reply #164 on: March 29, 2006, 05:21:49 PM »
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Am I not mistaken or are you not implying Microsoft wasn\'t a success because of their lack of profits? Oh, you were just saying something random in reply to altered beasts comment right?


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