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Sheesh, mm fights the good fight alone now.  There\'s never been enough bannings around here.

I\'m not sure the PS3 will blow by the 360 in sales anytime soon.  Each company will sell every unit on shelves this holiday.  Sony will market Sony style and will not keep up with demand.  MS will stumble around with abstract marketing and faux hip ads, but will ride Gears hype to success.  I don\'t see the appeal of this game outside of the graphics, but I am open to giving it a try.

Casuals want Madden, GTA and a shooter.  Sony and MS will have these.  MS will have the biggest title in 07 with H3, the movie will break video game to movie box office records (this is not saying much) and will outsell Sony in 07.  

Sometime in 08 PS3 becomes affordable to the mainstream, and then it\'ll be interesting.

Wii will sell as the Gamecube did, I wouldn\'t expect it to sell any more--this is something mm and I have always agreed on.  The wiimote is no innovation, doesn\'t look fun, is a gimmick and will get even fewer popular third party multiplatform games.  Nice one, Nintendo.

Oh, and HD are a nice addition, but Sony will burn as MS did last generation for including an internal one in each console.  It\'s nice for gamers though.

Flame on.

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Sheesh, mm fights the good fight alone now. There\'s never been enough bannings around here.

True - you always should of been one of the first to be banned.

Wii will sell as the Gamecube did, I wouldn\'t expect it to sell any more--this is something mm and I have always agreed on. The wiimote is no innovation, doesn\'t look fun, is a gimmick and will get even fewer popular third party multiplatform games. Nice one, Nintendo.

All that is opinion and speculation. A lot of casual gamers are looking forward to the Wii, not sure why people like you can\'t grasp that. Nintendo is aiming for that market and they will have success with that market. Other gamers, like Eik and myself are also looking forward to it.

Casuals want Madden, GTA and a shooter. Sony and MS will have these. MS will have the biggest title in 07 with H3, the movie will break video game to movie box office records (this is not saying much) and will outsell Sony in 07.

Halo 3 won\'t be that big of a deal. They\'ll have to push some 360\'s out the door first and I think people are tiring of Halo already.

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The wiimote is no innovation, doesn\'t look fun, is a gimmick

Sony adding motion sensors to the PS3 controller is a gimmick.

The wiimote is a drastic change to the style in which videogames are played on consoles.

Sheesh, mm fights the good fight alone now.  There\'s never been enough bannings around here.

I\'m not sure the PS3 will blow by the 360 in sales anytime soon.  Each company will sell every unit on shelves this holiday.  Sony will market Sony style and will not keep up with demand.  MS will stumble around with abstract marketing and faux hip ads, but will ride Gears hype to success.  I don\'t see the appeal of this game outside of the graphics, but I am open to giving it a try.

Casuals want Madden, GTA and a shooter.  Sony and MS will have these.  MS will have the biggest title in 07 with H3, the movie will break video game to movie box office records (this is not saying much) and will outsell Sony in 07.  

Sometime in 08 PS3 becomes affordable to the mainstream, and then it\'ll be interesting.

Wii will sell as the Gamecube did, I wouldn\'t expect it to sell any more--this is something mm and I have always agreed on.  The wiimote is no innovation, doesn\'t look fun, is a gimmick and will get even fewer popular third party multiplatform games.  Nice one, Nintendo.

Oh, and HD are a nice addition, but Sony will burn as MS did last generation for including an internal one in each console.  It\'s nice for gamers though.

Flame on.

Theres not much to flame on,  you post just as safe as mm,  what a pity

but,  how can you say the Wii remote doesnt look fun?  Sure it may blow on some games but for others like Star Wars games etc it will be a blast to have full control over a light saber etc.  

The Wii remote not an innovation?  It is to the console world.  And why are you so against it?  Nintendo is trying to do something new.  The last thing they need is hatas like you

Wanna know when the PS3 surpasses the 360 in sells?  When Xbox 3 comes out 3 years from now and everyone buys it instead of the 360.

oh,  btw,  your post was nothing more than a brief summary of what a dozen members have stated already.  Try to keep up to date,  k?

"on consoles"
"to the console world"

stop making excuses already.

It isn\'t fun. It looks silly and the types of games that it will work well with don\'t interest me.  I\'m sure there are lots of kids who are excited about the Wii, kids like all sorts of stupid shit.  They also like Nintendo games.  Nintendo has given up trying to compete with Sony and MS and have boxed themselves into the 17 and younger demographic.  Not only that, but the graphics just aren\'t there, and are leagues behind PS3 and 360.  At $50-100 less, it\'s just not going to be that attractive.  The new Mario is fun and neat, Zelda is difficult to control, many people were having problems with it.  Red Steel is really, very bad.  

Or look at it this way, say the thing works wonders and everyone loves it.  MS and Sony will copy it (MS already has the tech) and then what will Nintendo have?  Shitty graphics and cutesy games.  Even if it doesn\'t take off, Sony and MS will copy it to fill a niche.

People are tiring of Halo.  hahaha

What planet are you living on?  People aren\'t going to care about Madden either, I bet.  If the casual market was as you suggest, they would have picked up the NFL 2K series and found it superior.  But cling to that hope and dream if it helps you deal.  So people are tiring of Mario, Zelda and Pokemon--oh wait, nintendo franchises are sacred.

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It isn\'t fun. It looks silly and the types of games that it will work well with don\'t interest me. I\'m sure there are lots of kids who are excited about the Wii, kids like all sorts of stupid shit

Learn what opinion is. You played one? No . So you can\'t say if it is or isn\'t fun. And this whole "kids" thing is absurd, there is plenty of adults looking forward to the Wii, so get over it. Hell, my fiance couldn\'t care less about the other two, but wants a Wii. Same with my mother who plays games, but lost interest with the PS2 generation. Adults do care about it, just not the same type who care about Halo.


And I said I think people will be tired of Halo - it\'s a generic FPS. Mario, Zelda and other games are not sacred but they do offer a change of pace sequel from sequel.

That\'s where you\'re wrong, I have played it.  Not everyone is you.

Generic FPS have been the biggest genre in gaming for more than a decade.  They aren\'t going anywhere.

That\'s where you\'re wrong, I have played it.  Not everyone is you.

Hey you playied Wii? You ve been to E3??

Share your impressions with us of the show

What would you like to know?  You probably saw more the of the show than I did watching videos.  

I was a little harsh on Wii, it was interesting and novel, but I don\'t see the long term viability of it.  It\'s cool for a bit, but I can see it wearing thin. Also bear in mind I have no use to racing wheels, flight sticks or bongo drums either.  

I wasn\'t able to play it to that extent, I had work to do, but the smile I had on my face when I first tried it didn\'t last.  I liken it to great graphics, they draw you in at first, but don\'t make a game any better in most cases.

As I said above, I got frustrated with Zelda, especially the bow.  I know, I know, accusations that I\'m w34ks4uc3rz are coming, but trust me, I wasn\'t the only one having great difficulty.  It\'s something still being fine tuned, I\'m told, so I guess we\'ll see.  

Mario was fun, and pretty cool as Mario always is.  The sound especially, but the graphics were nice also. Speaking of which, I didn\'t hear any sound coming out of the wiimote, nor did I see a speaker (I didn\'t think to look for it) so I can\'t comment on fidelity or usefulness of that particular feature.  Metroid was really disappointing, it looked exactly like GC metroid.  

One thing I will say about Nintendo, I didn\'t see any framerate problems at all.  Sony and MS had problems in nearly every game.  I wasn\'t able to get in on Gears multiplayer, unfortunately.  Everyone knew that it was the one game I wanted to play, so I\'ve head about it a lot since.

I spent most of my time with Nintendo (not my choice, but was able to check out the other booths as well). Oh, and I saw 1up Jane. haha

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That\'s where you\'re wrong, I have played it.  Not everyone is you.

Generic FPS have been the biggest genre in gaming for more than a decade.  They aren\'t going anywhere.

You know, I got to agree with Watchdog here. First person shooters aren\'t going to be going anywhere, just like platformers and RPG\'s. They also happen to attract pretty much all PC gaming fans.

Anyway, I leave you guys with this.

i used to be roomates with a guy that "tilted" the controller when he played GT1 8 years ago.

i used to laugh at him for it....
oh, the irony

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..Yea, we believe ya\'.
It\'s a big quinky-dink you just now stepped up and said you went to E3. Not to mention even if you did, you\'re in the minority. The media has stated over and over it was a blast to play the Wii, so once again, it boils down to opinion. Learn what that means.

I still file your E3 claim under bullshit - but whatever. If you did play it , more power to you. It still gives you no ground on the Wii being no fun, simply because every other media outlet loved the Wii.

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I can\'t see Watchdog standing in line for 4 hours to play it either. They were record lines and if he did play it he either waited a long time or was one of the few who got in early and sprinted over there. Neither of which would be similiar in comparassion to Watch\'s earlier anti Nintendo perspective.