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Offline Eiksirf
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« Reply #105 on: June 05, 2006, 02:04:28 PM »
Ugh if DOA developers plan on including 1 hour + of cutscenes, they need to rethink what\'s important in gaming.

Unless they\'re working on another volleyball game. And then, have at it!
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« Reply #106 on: June 05, 2006, 02:16:08 PM »
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Ugh if DOA developers plan on including 1 hour + of cutscenes, they need to rethink what\'s important in gaming.

Unless they\'re working on another volleyball game. And then, have at it!


What worries me is that if developers of a simple fighting game are complaining about the space available on a dual-layered DVD what does that mean for much more complex games like Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy to name just a few?  I honestly can see some games needing a dual layered bluray before the PS3\'s lifespan is up

edit:   a dual layered DVD can only hold around 40 minutes of HD video,  so if DOA only includes lets say 30 minutes of HD video 80% of the disc space is already gone.
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« Reply #107 on: June 05, 2006, 02:18:37 PM »
The DOA developers are notoriously whiny.

Oh and if getting up to change a disc every 10 or so hours for FF7 then you might want rethink life.
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« Reply #108 on: June 05, 2006, 02:21:12 PM »
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The DOA developers are notoriously whiny.

Oh and if getting up to change a disc every 10 or so hours for FF7 then you might want rethink life.


I guess everyone who owns 5 CD disc changers should rethink life as well

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« Reply #109 on: June 05, 2006, 02:22:13 PM »
If you think you NEED one, yes.  And obviously you think you need blu-ray to make games for this generation.
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« Reply #110 on: June 05, 2006, 02:24:50 PM »
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If you think you NEED one, yes..


I agree lol

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  And obviously you think you need blu-ray to make games for this generation.


Well I\'ll just quote myself to answer this one

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DVDs are fine for this generation if you don\'t mind losing titles like Final Fantasy XIII or you don\'t care about popping in disc 2 of the latest DOA game just to see the ending cutscene.

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« Reply #111 on: June 05, 2006, 03:13:51 PM »
*sigh*

You\'re an idiot.
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« Reply #112 on: June 05, 2006, 03:17:15 PM »
I\'m more curious on the cost to make something HI-def, if it is costly, then yes, big developers will be able, but the smaller ones won\'t. And hell, will big developers even bother when a lot of people still own standard TV\'s?

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So if you do the math it takes 12.5 GB of space to hold 1 hour of high definition CG. That\'s nearly 1 and a half dual layered DVDs for high def CG alone. Games like Final Fantasy usually average 1 hr of CG.

So that leaves Square Enix just 5.5GB to finish the rest of Final Fantasy XIII and keep it on 2 dual-layered DVDs.

How about cut down on the damn CG? It\'s a game, not a movie.

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Final Fantasy XIII is the first game that I know of that has confirmed it was not possible on DVD, and I\'m sure the list will continue to grow larger and larger as we get deeper into the PS3\'s lifespan.

Yes! More CG! More realistic CG! I mean, come on, if they cut down on the unnessarcy CG, then there is plenty of space.

Infact, CG should be banned from games, just like FMV should of been banned in the 90\'s.

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« Reply #113 on: June 05, 2006, 04:11:54 PM »
because story development is the devil
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« Reply #114 on: June 05, 2006, 04:20:24 PM »
because games that lack excessive CG/FMV don\'t have sufficient story development? :confused:
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« Reply #115 on: June 05, 2006, 04:26:25 PM »
I don\'t own a lot of CG heavy games, so I can\'t speak for the A-list titles, but in the games I do have, CG = boring.

Real time cutscenes a la King Kong are way better in my opinion. They require a different kind of creativity than that of Square and its never ending desire to make movies.

But like I said, hi-def cg will necessitate blu-ray storage capacity.

As an owner of an HDTV, I get giddy thinking about it... if I ever fork over the cash for a PS3 anyway. ;]
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« Reply #116 on: June 05, 2006, 04:54:51 PM »
you will
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« Reply #117 on: June 05, 2006, 05:23:43 PM »
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you will
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As will I...

USED.

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As for CG - games are not movie\'s. I don\'t need 10 mintue cutscenes with high quality CG.

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« Reply #118 on: June 05, 2006, 05:33:28 PM »
games are not movies?

never played dragon\'s lair?
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« Reply #119 on: June 05, 2006, 05:44:16 PM »
Man I went to the video store to pick up a movie and there are still some movies that they do not yet have on dvd. I was like damn come on now. So I don\'t think we have to worry about blueray taking over anytime soon.
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