US Presidential Straw Poll 2008: Who\'s your nominee?

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Guliani is such a f**kin\' idiot... his whole campaign is nothin\' but september 11th shut the f**k up!...Ron Paul was 100% right, granted those assholes that hit the twin towers on that day were crazed lunatics, there\'s a reason for the hatred, i\'ve always stated that the u.s. probably enforces unfair policies abroad that we just don\'t hear about... i mean think about it...we do actually have a base in just about every country in the world and the fact the u.s is building a billion dollar embassy in iraq just reinforces this theory...and who in the world is really going to muscle us around? other than China, Germany and maybe Russia?

Now i don\'t think the u.s deserved what happpened on 911 because those people as we all know have some serious religious beliefs and mental issues goin\' on with them, but i do believe that our policies over seas was part of the reason for them attackin us..

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I dont want to hijack the thread with 9/11 stuff (puuunnnnnnn) i just wanted to show what guiliani does with his bs

But yea..they need to make a list of things the candidates stand for/what their policies are. Debates are filled with a bunch of PR talking and the questions that the dudes give are horrendous. not only that but they give them like 3 minutes to talk about illegal immigrants

If Guilani wins, the first thing he should do is call off the hunt for Osama and send him a "Thank You" card for getting him in office, because that\'s all that man is. One big September 11th fest.

Guliani is such a f**kin\' idiot... his whole campaign is nothin\' but september 11th shut the f**k up!...Ron Paul was 100% right, granted those assholes that hit the twin towers on that day were crazed lunatics, there\'s a reason for the hatred, i\'ve always stated that the u.s. probably enforces unfair policies abroad that we just don\'t hear about... i mean think about it...we do actually have a base in just about every country in the world and the fact the u.s is building a billion dollar embassy in iraq just reinforces this theory...and who in the world is really going to muscle us around? other than China, Germany and maybe Russia?

Now i don\'t think the u.s deserved what happpened on 911 because those people as we all know have some serious religious beliefs and mental issues goin\' on with them, but i do believe that our policies over seas was part of the reason for them attackin us..

First that clip that was posted is from back in May and Guiliani was responding to Ron Paul bringing up 9/11.  Ron Paul is so wrong.  Islamic Fundamentalists hate us not only for our policy on Israel, but for our way of life, which they consider un-Islamic.  

Guiliani has every right to respond to statements about 9/11 considering he was the mayor at the time.  That is like saying Obama shouldn\'t talk about race because he is black :fro: .

With that said, I am leaning more now towards McCain.  As much as I like Guiliani I don\'t think he can win the nomination.  

I just can\'t vote for a guy whose first name is very similar to a MKII character and who has an Arabic middle name.  He may be well spoken, but I have seen nothing of substance in anything he says other than he is all about "change".  Talk about vague.

Guiliani has every right to respond to statements about 9/11 considering he was the mayor at the time. That is like saying Obama shouldn\'t talk about race because he is black  

There is a difference in responding to a statement and playing a card.  Guilani has been playing the September 11th card since September 12th.

I just can\'t vote for a guy whose first name is very similar to a MKII character and who has an Arabic middle name.  He may be well spoken, but I have seen nothing of substance in anything he says other than he is all about "change".  Talk about vague.

I hope your Arabic comment was in jest because otherwise you\'re just a racist prick.

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Guiliani has every right to respond to statements about 9/11 considering he was the mayor at the time.  That is like saying Obama shouldn\'t talk about race because he is black :fro: .

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did you hear what ron paul was talking about? it\'s as if guiliani blanked out 90% of what ron paul said and was like "you\'re saying we caused 9/11..take that back so i can make a spectacle out of myself and a monster out of you"

tired of the selective hearing that goes on during election time..i always end up losing hope in our system at some point.

I hope your Arabic comment was in jest because otherwise you\'re just a racist prick.

I choose the latter.  I don\'t subscribe to political correctness and never will.  Sue me.

Lol Giga, not voting for someone because of their name is the most ridiculous thing ever.

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seriously..

not to mention his dads from kenya and his mom was a white american.

all the candidates are riding the \'change\' wave..i think every crowd will give a candidate a standing ovation if they say that word.

How about President Huckabee????  Just as stupid.  Anyway, I am not going to jump on the Obama bandwagon.  He has offered nothing in the way of a plan other then he is the candidate of "change".  How many other politicians have said this?

Unfortunately, most people will vote for him due to his skin color, because after all - it is the progressive thing to do.  :rolleyes:

seriously..

not to mention his dads from kenya and his mom was a white american.

all the candidates are riding the \'change\' wave..i think every crowd will give a candidate a standing ovation if they say that word.

I agree with that.  Unfortunately, the only way real change will happen is if we can elect someone who is not affiliated with either party.  Time to retire both the Dems and the Republicans.

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Unfortunately, most people will vote for him due to his skin color, because after all - it is the progressive thing to do.  :rolleyes:

we already went over this..you\'re no better than them for not voting for him because of his skin color/his name. In fact it\'s probably worse to be racist as opposed to just ignorant.

and don\'t say you not voting for him because of his policies..early in the thread you said you wouldnt vote for a black president because of the portion of the population that votes for him just because he\'s black.

basically, you made up your mind, nothings going to change it, and selective hearing kicks in

Wrong - I won\'t vote for him because he hasn\'t said anything "new".  I haven\'t heard one original thought come out of his mouth.  I just don\'t like all this crap about how he is special and different and the second coming of JFK, blah blah blah.   You would think by all the hoopla it that he is the second coming of Christ.

I also don\'t like I don\'t like his name or his racist church in Chicago.

You are also wrong because if it came down to him or Huckabee I would vote for him.

Well, can we all now establish that Giga\'s opinion is just plain stupid?  Not supporting someone due to their race / gender / Arabic name is just plain racist and old fashioned.

Already knew you was a prick, just didn\'t realize you was a racist prick.

Nifty.