Sarah Palin VP

[Jumpman]

Malcom X was just the opposite of martin luther king in a sense...he wanted equal rights for black folks as well, but he felt that black folks should take to arms and defend themselves against those white folks that wanted to do harm to them, while martin luther king preached peace even inthe face of violence.....

I think very early on in his teachings he felt some extreme anger towards white folks and wanted nothing to do with them...and this was the the sixties so i can see why most white folk hated a black person of his nature that wasn\'t going to take no s**t from them. But as he broke away from the teachings of elijah muhamed(spel)...he softened his stance towards white folks but was still skeptical of them....towards the end of his life, he was actually talking more like martin luther king...in the sense that black & whites should exist together peacefully.

I can\'t really blame some white folks for feeling that way tho, especially back then, since most white folks and blacks accepted the culture as "natural" back then....blacks sitting in the back of the bus was normal,..seperate bathrooms for whites and blacks was normal,...water fountains etc....i even asked my parents about how they managed to live through those times, and they would simply answer.."that is just how it was back then"...."they even told me that you had to be in the house after dark cause you could actually end up bein\' beaten badly or possibly lyched by white folks back then"....even white folks that wasn\'t racist just thought that this situation was natural in the way that blacks and whites engaged each-other.

It wasn\'t until the civil rights movement until some white folks started to take notice that the treatment of blacks was unfair....so i don\'t see how whites as you described could be upset with malcom x, when they in fact created this whole segregated culture back then.

I would just like to state that almost all my friends are black.

Want a cookie?  My roommate was black.

[Jumpman]

im black sup niggaz

Clinton doesn\'t fault Hillary voters for voting Palin...

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5857530

[GmanJoe]

Clinton doesn\'t fault Hillary voters for voting Palin...

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5857530

Even though I didn\'t like Bill, I will admit the guy was a great communicator.

[clips]

Clinton was a great prez, and he\'s right in what he states in that interview,...people vote for a candidate for a variety of reasons.....but i can\'t agree with Bill on the issue of hillary and Obama,..if you were voting for hillary, then all of a sudden you\'re votin\' for palin because she\'s a woman?....how shallow is that?...so when you reach a certain threshold in your life or when you\'re well off, you stop votin\' for people that you feel might actually help the country, and instead you vote on such shallow standards?

I\'m not believing that,.... if hillary voters that are switching to McCain/Palin because of Palin,...i know otherwise,..it\'s simply because Obama is black,..everybody likes to pussyfoot around that issue....Obama & hillary had just about thee exact same policies,....there\'s no reason to switch...if hillary was the nominee i would\'ve voted for her with no problem...i like Bill, but he can\'t even put his full support behind Obama, he\'s still holding a grudge because Hillary lost....he needs to stop acting like that and support the democratic nominee with a bit more ethusiasm.

Clinton was a great prez, and he\'s right in what he states in that interview,...people vote for a candidate for a variety of reasons.....but i can\'t agree with Bill on the issue of hillary and Obama,..if you were voting for hillary, then all of a sudden you\'re votin\' for palin because she\'s a woman?....how shallow is that?...so when you reach a certain threshold in your life or when you\'re well off, you stop votin\' for people that you feel might actually help the country, and instead you vote on such shallow standards?

I\'m not believing that,.... if hillary voters that are switching to McCain/Palin because of Palin,...i know otherwise,..it\'s simply because Obama is black,..everybody likes to pussyfoot around that issue....Obama & hillary had just about thee exact same policies,....there\'s no reason to switch...if hillary was the nominee i would\'ve voted for her with no problem...i like Bill, but he can\'t even put his full support behind Obama, he\'s still holding a grudge because Hillary lost....he needs to stop acting like that and support the democratic nominee with a bit more ethusiasm.

Most women were voting for Hillary because she is a woman.  All blacks are voting for 0bama because he is black.  Go figure...

[GmanJoe]

I knew you\'d step into this land mine. Giga pointed it out.

Clinton was a great prez, and he\'s right in what he states in that interview,...people vote for a candidate for a variety of reasons.....but i can\'t agree with Bill on the issue of hillary and Obama,..if you were voting for hillary, then all of a sudden you\'re votin\' for palin because she\'s a woman?....how shallow is that?...so when you reach a certain threshold in your life or when you\'re well off, you stop votin\' for people that you feel might actually help the country, and instead you vote on such shallow standards?

I\'m not believing that,.... if hillary voters that are switching to McCain/Palin because of Palin,...i know otherwise,..it\'s simply because Obama is black,..everybody likes to pussyfoot around that issue....Obama & hillary had just about thee exact same policies,....there\'s no reason to switch...if hillary was the nominee i would\'ve voted for her with no problem...i like Bill, but he can\'t even put his full support behind Obama, he\'s still holding a grudge because Hillary lost....he needs to stop acting like that and support the democratic nominee with a bit more ethusiasm.

[clips]

Most women were voting for Hillary because she is a woman.  All blacks are voting for 0bama because he is black.  Go figure...

And i knew that he would counter with this...predicable....we\'ve been down this road before...most blacks vote democratic anyway...so i guess when Bill was going for the presidency most blacks voted for him because he\'s white?....maybe some blacks are votin\' because he\'s black but for the most part blacks vote democratic anyway.

And even before palin was on the ticket, there were some hillary voters votin\' for McCain simply because they stated.."they didn\'t like Obama"...or "they can\'t trust him"..pathetic....so now they are votin\' for palin simply because she\'s a woman?..:rolleyes:...i\'ve read between the lines a long time ago,...if you guys want to continue to act like race isn\'t an issue go ahead.

I just know that blacks have never stated.."uhm i\'m not votin\' for so-in-so cause he\'s white"...nope we came out and voted for that white candidate with no problem at all....and let\'s be honest about obama...he\'s right down the middle...here\'s a guy that is not as strong minded as say Al Sharpton, but he\'s also not an uncle tom sellout....he\'s a highly intelligent & educated person that some feel might make a difference in this country..he really just comes across as an average guy and not your generic political zombie....but you have those voters that i\'ve mentioned here and in that other thread that won\'t vote for obama simply because he\'s black...it\'s 2008 and we shouldn\'t be votin\' soley because of a person\'s gender or race...

[Living-In-Clip]

And people who vote for McCain are old homophobic Christians.

See how it works?|

And i knew that he would counter with this...predicable....we\'ve been down this road before...most blacks vote democratic anyway...so i guess when Bill was going for the presidency most blacks voted for him because he\'s white?....maybe some blacks are votin\' because he\'s black but for the most part blacks vote democratic anyway.

And even before palin was on the ticket, there were some hillary voters votin\' for McCain simply because they stated.."they didn\'t like Obama"...or "they can\'t trust him"..pathetic....so now they are votin\' for palin simply because she\'s a woman?..:rolleyes:...i\'ve read between the lines a long time ago,...if you guys want to continue to act like race isn\'t an issue go ahead.

I just know that blacks have never stated.."uhm i\'m not votin\' for so-in-so cause he\'s white"...nope we came out and voted for that white candidate with no problem at all....and let\'s be honest about obama...he\'s right down the middle...here\'s a guy that is not as strong minded as say Al Sharpton, but he\'s also not an uncle tom sellout....he\'s a highly intelligent & educated person that some feel might make a difference in this country..he really just comes across as an average guy and not your generic political zombie....but you have those voters that i\'ve mentioned here and in that other thread that won\'t vote for obama simply because he\'s black...it\'s 2008 and we shouldn\'t be votin\' soley because of a person\'s gender or race...

Obama right down the middle?  :rofl: :rofl:  Black people are so funny.

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Obama right down the middle?  :rofl: :rofl:  Black people are so funny.

Whatever...the point was that he doesn\'t have that strong minded view like that of sharpton...people do not see that pro-black affirmitave action threatning prescence when they view obama....capeesh?...hence why he had a solid following amongst white folks during the campaigns...(it still doesn\'t dismiss the fact that some won\'t vote for him because of his race)...but he\'s coming across as somebody that wants to help everybody,...and not somebody that is soley going to be looking after the best interest of only afri. americans as some blacks would like for him to do....

My main point in general was that race is going to play a role in this election, and that some of you guys are foolish to think that it won\'t. I see between the lines of why some are voting against obama for thee most outrageous reasons, when intially they were voting for hillary.

Whatever...the point was that he doesn\'t have that strong minded view like that of sharpton...people do not see that pro-black affirmitave action threatning prescence when they view obama....capeesh?...hence why he had a solid following amongst white folks during the campaigns...(it still doesn\'t dismiss the fact that some won\'t vote for him because of his race)...but he\'s coming across as somebody that wants to help everybody,...and not somebody that is soley going to be looking after the best interest of only afri. americans as some blacks would like for him to do....

My main point in general was that race is going to play a role in this election, and that some of you guys are foolish to think that it won\'t. I see between the lines of why some are voting against obama for thee most outrageous reasons, when intially they were voting for hillary.

No... they see Reverend Wright.

clips,

race had never been an issue before in a presidential election, so to say they were voting democratic anyway is meaningless.  The true test would be if a black republican was running... then we can test yours and giga\'s theory.

[clips]

No... they see Reverend Wright.

And Obama turned around and gave one of the greatest speeches on race relations in america, and more than re-assured voters that he was ready to confront that controversial issue and bring folks together.

clips,

race had never been an issue before in a presidential election, so to say they were voting democratic anyway is meaningless. The true test would be if a black republican was running... then we can test yours and giga\'s theory.

Well there was a black republican that ran some years ago, but i forgot his name,...he was rather forgettable in the same sense in how Al Sharpton & that other afri american woman ran for the presidency in the last election,...they were virtually non-existant.....the only other time that i remember a black presidential candidate causing this much ruckus was jessie jackson, but i was kinda young for that one...

But for the most part blacks have mostly always voted democratic...so to spin it and say all of a sudden that blacks are votin\' for him because he\'s black is kinda silly(again i do think some are votin\' because of that fact), but i also feel some are voting on his views and policies and on the notion that they feel he will have a positive impact on the country.