The constitution is a charter of negative liberties?

Great, great progress has been made in our country since our founding. However, Barack Obama and the Democrat Party still see this nation as the greatest failure in the experiment of social and economic justice and equality that the human race has ever produced.

You see, the people of this country love their Constitution, reject socialism, and don\'t support an authoritarian judiciary -- yet this is the Obama agenda: he wants to unleash the full power of the federal government against the people.

Moral of the story:

Whether you call a phone sex hotline or you call the Democrat Party, you\'re going to get screwed either way.

And I\'ll leave it at that.

So there that goes... oh well, you tried.  Remember, perception always wins out over intention.  While you may perceive the CRA to be an effective tool for making loans that didn\'t force banks to make loans, in actuality it did.  I\'ll respect the words of the man who correctly predicted this crisis back in 2002.

Where is the link?

BTW, you only believe what Ron Paul tells you to believe.  How is that any different from the criticisms you have made against Obama supporters?

Where is the link?

BTW, you only believe what Ron Paul tells you to believe.  How is that any different from the criticisms you have made against Obama supporters?

Ron Paul predicted the financial crisis, Obama did not.  Do you want to start a list of Ron Paul accomplishments vs. Obama accomplishments.

Rather, I think we\'d be better off reading the shortest book in the world, "Barack Hussein Obama\'s Political Accomplishments."

Ron Paul\'s Accomplishments
Barack Obama\'s Accomplishments

Reference Material for CRA statements: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

anything else?

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In related news, I just EMPTIED my daughter\'s saving account and bought silver bars. I also bought a ton of my own. Where I work, we buy & sell precious metals, and we cannot keep ANYTHING in stock. people are emptying their accounts and paying exorbanant premiums for gold, silver & platinum. We have probobly sold $25-30 mil in the last 3 weeks. People with money are running scared, and a lot of them are self-made wealthy people. I hear "I worked too damn hard my whole life to have someone give it to people who can\'t stop f*cking and having kids they can\'t feed..."

watch out, socialism is around the corner.

Because I earn money, I view impoverished men, women and children with disdain and contempt. May they rot in hell while I go for a swim in my piles of gold and silver.

That about the gist of it?

There was a time when liberal was only an insult if we added "bleeding heart" in front of it. And the overall idea behind free healthcare and in providing child support for those who need it is compassion.

Yeah, I wish bad parents would stop having sex, but in the absence of that, I\'d prefer not to see the children punished for it more than they already will be.

Because I earn money, I view impoverished men, women and children with disdain and contempt. May they rot in hell while I go for a swim in my piles of gold and silver.

That about the gist of it?

Because I do not earn money, I view the wealthy as my providers.  I cannot provide for myself, so I expect my government to take care of me from cradle to grave.  I resent the wealthy for their success and rather than achieve my own success, I\'d just like some of theirs.

That about the gist of it?

Yes.

Except for resenting the wealthy, it\'s probably more of a jealousy thing, or in some cases just a general apathy.

7 years isn\'t that long ago, his opinions haven\'t changed.

Yes, I even stated after the elipsis that not everyone will have a problem with that quote.

While I\'m not thrilled with my current situation, I\'m not UNhappy, I will be if the government reaches deeper into my pocket though.

Are you in the top 5% wage earners in this country?

Are you in the top 5% wage earners in this country?

Nope, but I\'m a man of principal, and I don\'t believe his tax plan for one second.

Please Read

We are no longer talking about the top 1%, or even the top 2% of earners. With a tax increase that will hit individuals earning $84,000 - $125,000 per year, the top 20% of taxpayers and small businesses would now see an increase in taxes. This expansion of Obama\'s tax increase base amounts to an increase in taxes on a group 20 times larger than his initial proposals. Now imagine if this is not the end.

/reality check

I love the right screaming socialism.. when really all Obama\'s tax plan will do is roll it back to the tax structure how it was under the Clinton administration... basically undo the huge tax cuts for the rich in this country.  3% is gonna make you want to scream socialism?  Save me the inevitable "slippery slope" comment also.

I remember reading a story a guy wrote who made about 280k a year... he broke down the changes that would take place under an Obama administration and kept crying about how 280k doesn\'t go as far as it used to in Toledo, Ohio and that the Obama plan was going to raise his taxes by about $450.

Cry me a fucking river

I love the right screaming socialism.. when really all Obama\'s tax plan will do is roll it back to the tax structure how it was under the Clinton administration... basically undo the huge tax cuts for the rich in this country.  3% is gonna make you want to scream socialism?  Save me the inevitable "slippery slope" comment also.

I remember reading a story a guy wrote who made about 280k a year... he broke down the changes that would take place under an Obama administration and kept crying about how 280k doesn\'t go as far as it used to in Toledo, Ohio and that the Obama plan was going to raise his taxes by about $450.

Cry me a fucking river

You didn\'t address the link and/or quote that I posted.  It\'s top 20%, not top 3%.  Remember, it started at top 1%.

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You didn\'t address the link and/or quote that I posted.  It\'s top 20%, not top 3%.  Remember, it started at top 1%.

We\'ll just have to wait and see eh?....Tho truth be told,...i did notice how he dropped the number from $250,000 to $200,000 on tha low, with no explanation yet as to why, and even tho i\'m still not within that bracket, that was a bit concerning. In truth both him and McCain would have to raise taxes at some point,...with the current state of the economy, it\'s bound to happen.

Anyway families makin\' over 200,000 a year are still living pretty well and what he\'s proposing again will not break them, but i now wonder what is the number for an individual since the family was dropped to $200,000...dammit obama you better not be pulling an okeedoke!!.....i\'m sure the McCain fanatics will jump all over me for sayin\' this, but if we\'re truly going to have an honest discussion, that is the only thing that bothered me last night during his infomercial.

I don\'t know, he has the former economic team that surrounded bill clinton back in the day so i\'m sure what ever they are planning will be in connection with what we are dealing with in the current state of the economy. The economy is in bad shape,..none of us are feeling it at the rock bottom level because we are all working and still have our homes, but it\'s going to take alot to get it back on track,..i still trust that obama will work hard to get it right again.

Seriously, if the top 20% get a tax hike, then the top 20% get a tax hike. Tough noogies. Normally, and realistically, it\'ll pretty much always be the top 100% getting the tax hike, so less people have to bite it this time around. Yay.

Big deal.

Or, instead of taxes, maybe we can just run completely on money we borrow from China for a few years.

Seriously, if the top 20% get a tax hike, then the top 20% get a tax hike. Tough noogies. Normally, and realistically, it\'ll pretty much always be the top 100% getting the tax hike, so less people have to bite it this time around. Yay.

Big deal.

Or, instead of taxes, maybe we can just run completely on money we borrow from China for a few years.

maybe we could stop spending money on things like you know... the iraq war, foreign aid, welfare, the IRS, and other useless government beauracracies.

maybe we could stop spending money on things like you know... the iraq war, foreign aid, welfare, the IRS, and other useless government beauracracies.

How would we catch drug dealers and gangsters without the IRS!!?!!?