What company has the best 1st party developers?

Sorry Gohan, that date is completely wrong. It came out 10/95 in Europe and 1996 in America, both dates were ahead of Mario64. Like I said, both 3D platoformers, Lemmings was first. So Mario64 was no technical masterpiece.

TheOne = obviously joking

Eric Jacob

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Sorry Gohan, that date is completely wrong. It came out 10/95 in Europe and 1996 in America, both dates were ahead of Mario64. Like I said, both 3D platoformers, Lemmings was first. So Mario64 was no technical masterpiece.

TheOne = obviously joking

Eric Jacob

You have any proof of this?  

It sounds like you are pulling this out of your ***.

Gamefaqs.com <----

also, personal MEMORIES! I don\'t pull stuff out of my ***, if I would, I would be lying and some one would catch me. I may say somethig stupid sometimes, but that is because of personal bias or interest, not BS.


BTW, d/led the VF4 movie last night! WOW! You HAVE to see it in motion, you thought the pictures looked good, see the movie. To risk sounding gay, it is poetry in motion. And not any of that gay Robert Frost stuff either, this is like Richard Broddigan stuff.

Eric Jacob

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Gamefaqs.com <----

also, personal MEMORIES! I don\'t pull stuff out of my ***, if I would, I would be lying and some one would catch me. I may say somethig stupid sometimes, but that is because of personal bias or interest, not BS.

I don\'t feel like arguing it anymore. Lemmings may have been first but Mario did it right and much better.

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
BTW, d/led the VF4 movie last night! WOW! You HAVE to see it in motion, you thought the pictures looked good, see the movie. To risk sounding gay, it is poetry in motion. And not any of that gay Robert Frost stuff either, this is like Richard Broddigan stuff.

Eric Jacob

I got it too. It looks really good but I hope they update the graphics a little more before it is released. I kind of like the look of Soul Caliber and TTT better. The VF4 textures seem weird.

Both (actually all three) of those are your opinions. Personally, I dont like either of the games. Mario64 didn\'t really stick to the tried and true gameplay of Mario. You were out collecting stars, rather than coins and where were the mushrooms? I know lots of people who think Lemmings 3D was better.

Eric Jacob

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Both (actually all three) of those are your opinions. Personally, I dont like either of the games. Mario64 didn\'t really stick to the tried and true gameplay of Mario. You were out collecting stars, rather than coins and where were the mushrooms? I know lots of people who think Lemmings 3D was better.

Eric Jacob

WTF, Where are these people?

[BizioEE]

Nintendo!

I think Nintendo is the company that revolutionizes the industry. They do it very seldom, but it never fails.

In the N64 they only brought two revolutions:
-First: the standard non-linear collecting gameplay of Mario 64 which is now the way every 3-d plataformer is made.

-Second: Z targeting in Zelda, this has since been implemented in almost every game that has you fighting in three dimensions against multiple oponents.

But other than that they rarely do anything that would fall under innovative. They shake it up, and then the other game companies; sega, konami, capcom, sony. Take it from there.

Overall my vote would go to Sega, (although I love Konami, mmm...2 player Contra) but it\'s easy to see that many of the games from these developers would never have come along without Nintendo.

again Lemmings 3D. and Z-Targeting?  I dont know what you mean by that. Camera angles? lock on targeting? If so, Panzer Dragoon had that (1995), VF3 has that (1996), and so forth.

Sega is the most innovative. Nintendo shakes it up because their copy sells the most copies, that is why alot of games are based upon Nintendo games. Even if Nintendo\'s own game is a copy.

Eric Jacob

Have you even played Lemmings 3D? It is NOT a platformer so why do you keep comparing it to Mario 64? Lemmings 3D is the same thing as all the other Lemmings games just in .....well, 3D. You don\'t get to control a Lemming you control a cursor and you click on the lemming and assign him a task.

Every post that you make chips away at your credibility. I wont even comment on your z targeting post. :rolleyes:

I thought I\'d be an ass and bring back a year old thread.

BOO-YAH!!!

I still think Nintendo has the best first parties.

Do you guys still agree with your original posts in this thread? If you did not post in this thread who do you think has the best 1st parties?

I made a thread similar to this a couple of days ago and I said Sony is now my current favorite developer!:D

If I had posted here a year ago, I probably would not have chosen Sony because they didn\'t start to impress me until end of last, and beginning of this year. With games like GT, J@D, TM and Ape Escape ( I love that game!) under there belts already and games like Getaway, Sly Cooper and Mark of Kri coming out soon you can really see a variaty in their games, games I really look forward to and know I will not be disappointed with.

Wow1 That was a really long time ago I won that argument bitch!

Sega is still the best, regardless of being 1st or third party. I was spot on about Luigi having to save Mario in Luigi\'s Mansion

Eric Jacob

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Wow1 That was a really long time ago I won that argument bitch!

Sega is still the best, regardless of being 1st or third party. I was spot on about Luigi having to save Mario in Luigi\'s Mansion

Eric Jacob

HAHA, you were absolutely correct.