What company has the best 1st party developers?

Nintendo, SEGA or Sony? X-bOX doesnt count because their first system isnt even out yet. What are the top three games that the 1st party developers make,iyo?

if yer 12 years old or under - nintendo

if yer 13 years old older - sega

sony doesnt exactly have 1st party games

Originally posted by mm

sony doesnt exactly have 1st party games

not sure I understand what you mean by this

Sony owns quite a few Studios.

Even though we haven\'t seen anything from them, Naughty Dog is my choice for the best 1st party developer.(I think they\'re 1st party, aren\'t they?)  Their past games have been really good and they claim their next game on the PS2 is going to WOW us all...we will see.  I\'m hoping that they show us at least a glimpse of it this E3.

I don\'t really know a lot of first party developers for any console, so I can\'t really say which console has the best.

Ummm what exactly is the differences between 1st 2nd and 3rd party developers?  

i get them confused a lot, an answer would be appreciated

1st Party: Developers owned by the console maker. (ie. Mario, Sonic, and Gameday are all first party games)

2nd Party: Separate developers who have an agreement to produce software for only one console. (ie. Rare, Bungie, Naughty Dog are all 2nd party developers.)

3rd Party: Developers that are free to develop for any and all consoles. (ie. EA, Square:D, Konami)

I think Sega and Sony have the best 1sr party developers.

Sony? No way! look at the crap 989 produces. They got Polyphony, thats about it. At least from what we have seen Verant too, but that is like one game, and it is online, something the PS2 doesnt do yet?

Sega has the best, obviously. They do sports, racing, action, arcade, strategy, puzzle, dancing, platform, adventure, etc, etc, etc! And the best thing about them, is hey do it RIGHT! if Nintendo would innovate once in a while, maybe they wold be, but when was the last time they had a fresh idea? Or an original franchise?

Eric Jacob

ok i just forgot the difference of 1st and 2nd party developers

well in that case i also say sega or nintendo - they have come out with some of the most original games and they take their time to make them great

Geez. Sony has quite the line up coming for PS2, but no, let\'s just harp on 989?!?!

Getaway(Drv/Adv)
Tsugani(RPG)
Devil and I(RPG)
Popolocrious(RPG)
Dark Cloud(Adv)
Drop Ship(RTS)
Extermination(Act/Adv)
Phase Paradox(Act/ADV)
Sagasini(RPG)

Those are just off the top of my head. I love rpg/action adv games and Sony is kicking a$$ in that dept.

And Naughty Dog has been purchased by Sony so they are 1st party now.

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Sega has the best, obviously. They do sports, racing, action, arcade, strategy, puzzle, dancing, platform, adventure, etc, etc, etc! And the best thing about them, is hey do it RIGHT! if Nintendo would innovate once in a while, maybe they wold be, but when was the last time they had a fresh idea? Or an original franchise?Eric Jacob

WTF? Nintendo is one of the most innovative developers out there. Everytime they release a continuation of one of their franchises it is 100x better than the previous and most of the time takes the genre to a new level. Tell me how original Sonic is as a Mario clone? Although I love Sega and think they are one of the better development houses, Nintendo is the BEST at what they do (make games). NextGen, which is probably the best gaming mag, ran an article two months ago in which they compared each company\'s 1st and 2nd parties. They compared all of the games that the developers have made and said that for overall talent and no one beats Nintendo. I will scan and post the article later tonight.

[Living-In-Clip]

Not dissin\' Nintendo, but they haven\'t aged as well. The NES and SuperNES was both excellent systems. But the N64 wasn\'t anything special. The 64DD was a tragedy which is why we anyone out of Japan never got it.  

I\'m with MM though.
Sega if you are over 13.
Nintendo if you are under 12.

Not to say that Nintendo doesn\'t produce some good games. They do. But not near enough.

 

right Gohan, riiiigghhht. So Sonic is a Mario clone (obviously) , but isn\'t mario a clone of Pitfall or Lemmings, or some other games. Believe it or not, Mario was not the first platformer! GASP! It\'s true! Tell me, does Nintendo make sports games? RPGs? Racing games? (outside of kiddy cart racing or Cruisin\'?)? Puzzle games? Fighting Games? Online? The list goes on and on and on and on... Tell me, who is the best developer? Thhhhaaaaaaattttt\'s right!

Eric Jacob

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip

Not dissin\' Nintendo, but they haven\'t aged as well. The NES and SuperNES was both excellent systems. But the N64 wasn\'t anything special. The 64DD was a tragedy which is why we anyone out of Japan never got it.  

I\'m with MM though.
Sega if you are over 13.
Nintendo if you are under 12.

Not to say that Nintendo doesn\'t produce some good games. They do. But not near enough.

 

Don\'t tell me that you are talking about Nintendo and their consoles.  How ironic is this considering that the company that you are defending, Sega, has how many failed add-ons and consoles?  Let\'s see, we have the 32X, GameGear, Sega CD, the Sega Saturn, and we\'ll throw in the DC since it appears that you consider the N64 a failure.  

Ok that is 5 for Sega and 3 for Nintendo (Virtual Boy, 64DD, N64).  

Now without the N64 and DC it is 4 for Sega and only 2 for Nintendo.  

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
right Gohan, riiiigghhht. So Sonic is a Mario clone (obviously) , but isn\'t mario a clone of Pitfall or Lemmings, or some other games. Believe it or not, Mario was not the first platformer! GASP! It\'s true! Tell me, does Nintendo make sports games? RPGs? Racing games? (outside of kiddy cart racing or Cruisin\'?)? Puzzle games? Fighting Games? Online? The list goes on and on and on and on... Tell me, who is the best developer? Thhhhaaaaaaattttt\'s right!

Eric Jacob

I can\'t say anything for the past, but for the future I can say this.

Nintendo makes sports games via Left Field (NBA Courtside, and other titles),  Nintendo makes RPG\'s themselves (Paper Mario) and Silicon Knights will handle the RPG\'s (Too Human). You got me on the Racing part. Puzzle Games (Dr. Mario and Pokemon Puzzle League).  Fighting (Super Smash Bros.)  Online - that really isn\'t fair considering Nintendo hasn\'t had a chance to start their Internet thing.

I can\'t say who the best developer is because that is opinion.  Just like when people say they like Visual Concepts over EA.