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« on: March 14, 2001, 08:39:21 AM »
This is a question i have asked ever since i saw the sleek black light(lol)......when MGS2 was show and destroyed everything in it\'s path people still bashed the PS2..."it\'s CG" "it\'s coming to my console" "it don\'t cook my breakfast"...etc...etc

Then came word that mighty microsoft would bring a GODLY console with the power to draw 300mpps....reach speeds of 1 teraflop...cure cancer and end world hunger......yet over the months the specs kept going down...and still do.

This was the console many hard-core sega zealots used to get revenge...(you know who you are)...others hated the console yet as long as it higher specs than PS2...they would like it.

just think for a moment what PS2 did:

1)Bring CG like graphics to home consoles earlier than thought possible(RRV is almost CG quality...TTT is almost CG quality...)

2)bring out a revolutionary hardware design so new it would take years and years to harness it\'s power...

3)give developers the choice of doing what THEY wanted how THEY wanted it to be done(lowering the quality or ammount of mip-mapping and getting more power for AI or physics, is an example)

4)being the first BB console ever(sony did not make it BB after xbox..don\'t fool your self)

5)first console with the capability to use a HDD(again they had this in mind since PS2 developing started)

6)it\'s VERY early second gen games look far better than the godly xbox\'s offerings show so far....

7)look at 6..that coming from a piece of hardware, harder to use than the saturn...nuff said.

8)coming to gamers first with all this great stuff and more too come

when all is said and done...SONY is pretty much the winner this gen hardware-sales wise(unless nintendo pulls some kind of trick with the GBA;))....xbox is pretty much DOA in japan(latest konami interview slams xbox)

so...why do people hate PS2?
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2001, 08:54:22 AM »
I kinda didn\'t expect a post like this from a member with a troll-pic... I don\'t even know why you have that pic, but anyways...

You\'re over-reacting here, as saying "People hate Ps2" is wrong. Many ppl love ps2, but there, of course ( like always ) are biased fanboys who hate Sony and Playstation 2. Blah blah...

These discussions have been discussed SO many times ;)

I\'ve also noticed your very positive attitude towards PS2 and games of the console. I wonder, have you changed or why you still have that troll-pic? Have you always been like that? Why your name is N-player while you say PS2 almost beats GC in graphics? Sorry for these questions. You don\'t have to answer, but your words just don\'t suit your name :)

And asking why ppl hate PS2 in THIS forum is kinda worthless. Not many here HATE ps2. Some may dislike it, or like some console more, but HATE is maybe too strong word.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2001, 09:13:18 AM »
I agree with the biggest part of your post.

PS2 is attacked madly by many ex-Saturn owners(refering to Sega fanatics),many Nintendo console owners(people that can not accept the fact Nintendo arent Gaming gods),many XBOX fans(1)PC owners that beleive PC\'s are better than consoles,2)Sega fans that go with the XBOX as their chance to revenge Sony,3)people that know little about gaming but fall to the name of MS etc)
Ofcourse there are many Sega,Nintando and XBOX fans that are honets and true gamers.


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1)Bring CG like graphics to home consoles earlier than thought possible(RRV is almost CG quality...TTT is almost CG quality...)


unfortunately good PS2 games where few and developers that rushed their games were many.Dont forget PS2 was also attacked for the jaggies issue.

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3)give developers the choice of doing what THEY wanted how THEY wanted it to be done(lowering the quality or ammount of mip-mapping and getting more power for AI or physics, is an example)


Yes that true generally.But in order to offer movie quality games graphics AI and physics are all needed at the same time.
We are still optimistic though with the results MGS2 has already in PS2\'s early lifespan.We still have 4-5 years ahead.

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4)being the first BB console ever(sony did not make it BB after xbox..don\'t fool your self)


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5)first console with the capability to use a HDD(again they had this in mind since PS2 developing started)


Yeap thats Sony\'s idea.They were the first to announce BB and HD compatibility for their console.Sony haters made it look as if Sony stole the idea from MS though.But thats not true.



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6)it\'s VERY early second gen games look far better than the godly xbox\'s offerings show so far....


PS2 has many graet looking games but we dont know how would the XBOX games look later.


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7)look at 6..that coming from a piece of hardware, harder to use than the saturn...nuff said.
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It will be a lot easier when developers learn how it works.
The programming difficulty is like a double-edged sword actually.Atleast for now.


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8)coming to gamers first with all this great stuff and more too come


Yeap.Still 4-5 years to come.



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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2001, 09:28:13 AM »
darth:

yeah i hated PS2...until i saw games that were too damn good to pass up...like GT3 and MGS2..

the PS2 "might" be able to texture better than GC...but that will require LOTS of time and money....SSX and TTT textures are NOTHING...wait until early 2002;)

GC and PS2 will be giving us some great graphics this gen..that\'s all that matters.

I saw why PS2 is and will be a great console, but i cannot understand why it is hated by almost every damn person on the net...what did it do? run over their dog?....

it\'s amazing the hatred this console has gotten....it gave us so many things so early for a nice price...why the hate?

PS: MM take this pic off already;)

Thanks unicorn:)
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2001, 09:50:43 AM »
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Why do people say stuff like this?  Why do you hate companies who provide entertainment to us?  You=make no sense.

Yeah I hate Sony, those damn bastards just keep making games AND THEY WON\'T STOP!!
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2001, 09:58:25 AM »
People hate the PS2  because Sony is a multinational moneymaking company. (LOL)
They dont make any good games (LOL)
They love Nintendo or Sega or their PC.

I dont hate any company but I like the PS2 very much.
I think that the person that hates sony so much is younger people that is in love with Nintendo.

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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2001, 10:12:06 AM »
The thing is that if you go a multi-platform site guess who is public enemy 1?...yup PS2.

I\'m just tired of going to a multi-platform, saying i like this or that PS2 game...and getting bashed for it...just because it\'s a PS2 game.

it\'s getting to a point where people seem to have some kind of mind control which commands them to bash PS2..

it makes no sense.
. I\'ve said it before and I\'ll say it again, in terms of ingenuity, exclusivity, and console competition, X-Box brings nothing to the table except a fat wad of cash and some rehashed PC components wrapped with a DC controller and a plastic black box.----RYU

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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2001, 11:09:46 AM »
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4)being the first BB console ever(sony did not make it BB after xbox..don\'t fool your self)

 


Uhhhh.......what??? Hmmmm, must be true wireless broadband. No wires, no cables, no BB adapter. I sure don\'t see any BB.

Guess you were so mesmerized by Sony\'s future plans that you were oblivious to the fact that the other little white box has BB, already.

While you\'re pointing out all the positives of PS2, why do you fail to mention the negatives? Or the positives of the other consoles the PS2 lack?

VRAM - DC: 8MB vs PS2 4MB

Controller Ports -  PS2: 2 vs All Others: 4

Online -  DC: 56K Modem Included vs PS2: Buy Add-On

First Party - Sega/Nintendo vs Sony

Gamecube\'s Mini DVD

X-Box\'s huge list of 3rd Party support

PS2\'s difficulty to program for

The point is the PS2 is not God\'s gift to gaming so don\'t make it out to be some omnipotent be-all-end-all machine. It\'s definitely impressive but don\'t judge it\'s future competition without hands-on experience.

As for the PS2-haters, they\'ll probably never change. Just think of it as their loss.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2001, 11:23:41 AM »
None of what you said in your original post matters as long as Sony keeps allowing crap games on its system.
They are just not any fun (for the most part)
They may look good but thats about it.
Maybe the reason everyone "hates" the system is because we feel we have been ripped off by a company that RUSHED it\'s system out before it were ready, and before the games were ready.

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2001, 11:27:39 AM »
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X-Box\'s huge list of 3rd Party support

PS2\'s difficulty to program for


1. PS2s list is BIGGER!!
2. So? Give them TIME! You dont make games.. So whats the freaking problem??

PS2 hard to program for.
Xbox easy to program for.

Hmm.. How come Ps2 games look waaay better??
huh? huh? I dident hear you??
Dont gimme that "not final hardware" BS!

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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2001, 11:28:11 AM »


               

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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2001, 11:34:50 AM »
Me??
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2001, 11:53:36 AM »
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Uhhhh.......what??? Hmmmm, must be true wireless broadband. No wires, no cables, no BB adapter. I sure don\'t see any BB.

Guess you were so mesmerized by Sony\'s future plans that you were oblivious to the fact that the other little white box has BB, already.

While you\'re pointing out all the positives of PS2, why do you fail to mention the negatives? Or the positives of the other consoles the PS2 lack?

VRAM - DC: 8MB vs PS2 4MB

Controller Ports -  PS2: 2 vs All Others: 4

Online -  DC: 56K Modem Included vs PS2: Buy Add-On

First Party - Sega/Nintendo vs Sony

Gamecube\'s Mini DVD

X-Box\'s huge list of 3rd Party support

PS2\'s difficulty to program for

The point is the PS2 is not God\'s gift to gaming so don\'t make it out to be some omnipotent be-all-end-all machine. It\'s definitely impressive but don\'t judge it\'s future competition without hands-on experience.

As for the PS2-haters, they\'ll probably never change. Just think of it as their loss.



From the number of your posts I understand you new here.
1)Dont forget the PS2 has 4MB of STREAMING VRAM.I guess you didnt know that.Check some Getaway pic.You ll be amazed.

2)PS2 has 2 controller ports because thats what it needs.Most games are 2 player,you cant always have 3 friends with you(you also need 3 extra controllers:P),PS2\'s main multi player target is online and you ve got the chance to add 2 multitabs for 8 player goodness(7 more controllers is expensive though:)).

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First Party - Sega/Nintendo vs Sony

ehm ahm.....DC is dead.SEGA got multiplatform now and Sony has Polyphony Digital and some 2nd Party developers like Namco and Square.
First party developers werent any problem for Sony when it had PSX.So why should Nintendo be a problem for Sony now?

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Gamecube\'s Mini DVD

Ahm....could you explain more about it?

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X-Box\'s huge list of 3rd Party support

If XBOX has a huge 3rd party support then PS2 has a AN ENORMOUS GICANTIC HUGE ASTRONOMIC NUMBER of 3rd party developer support.
XBOX\'s games are mainly PC ports and minimal PS2 ports.

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The point is the PS2 is not God\'s gift to gaming so don\'t make it out to be some omnipotent be-all-end-all machine. It\'s definitely impressive but don\'t judge it\'s future competition without hands-on experience.


We arent acting as if PS2 is  God\'s gift to gaming .Most XBOX fans do about XBOX.You are new in the forums I can guess and you cant see how open minded most of us are about all consoles.
 Judging from your post you need some experience too my friend:)

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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2001, 12:13:46 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2001, 12:28:59 PM »
:alien: Ps2 is a nice piece of hardware for games. I love mines and I dont hate it in anyway...other then the fact that ....nah i got nothing i love the ps2 :eek:
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