Jaggies be gone!!!

Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Regardless weather it\'s in the right direction or not, just look at PSX2’s AA, it will never be able to compete with NGC, or XBOX\'s FSAA, why cause they are using hardware AA which yields allot better results. Sony made mistakes when making the psx2, and not implementing Hardware AA was one of them. Now if you truly believe that software AA is the future, then if so, now was not the time to go about it, when out software is not sophisticated enough to really take advantage of it, cause if it was we would being seeing the results, which we will not. As it stands right now, HARDWARE AA is the best.

I don\'t think you understood what Bossieman was trying to say.  I think he was saying that in the future, AA won\'t even be needed.  I think it will even happen before the PS3.  I think between the middle and the end of the PS2\'s life, we will start seeing games that don\'t even need AA because of how the game\'s graphics are done.

And people complain that Sony isn\'t innovative.  The PS2 is the only innovative, truely new console coming out for a long time.

Look how great XBoxes AA looks in this pic! My point exactly!

Originally posted by IronFist

I don\'t think you understood what Bossieman was trying to say.  I think he was saying that in the future, AA won\'t even be needed.  I think it will even happen before the PS3.  I think between the middle and the end of the PS2\'s life, we will start seeing games that don\'t even need AA because of how the game\'s graphics are done.

And people complain that Sony isn\'t innovative.  The PS2 is the only innovative, truely new console coming out for a long time.

What crack are you 2 smoking? Let me get this strait.... it\'s NOT better to have FSAA avalible on the hardware instead of wasting GPU power? It\'s NOT better to make developers lives a bit easier?

Please give me a example of how future games will be done that will render AA obsolete. You cant cause it wont. And PS2, as nice as it is, is NOT innovative in ANY way. And fyi, I dont think XB or GC are either, so I\'m not being unfair.

The PS2 will be a step behind in the FSAA department

I think top developers will master it but the rest will alwyas struggle

Maybe things will change but so far there is only a proportion of PS2 developers getting any real expected performance out of the PS2


Even lesser devs on Xbox and GC will have better looking games do to simplicity of hardware effects

Time will tell but early on the PS2 is a Mountain that is still being climbed.

Originally by Claypool 2001

Look how great XBoxes AA looks in this pic! My point exactly!  

Are you on something, that pic you just posted is not using FSAA. So you wanna play hard ball, ok let me have a stab at this:

Let\'s take a look at PSX2 AA, shall we, here we go










XBOX with AA





Just to make it clear, those psx2 pics were not using AA, just like the xbox pic Claypool 2001 posted.

The PS2 will be a step behind in the FSAA department

I think top developers will master it but the rest will alwyas struggle

Maybe things will change but so far there is only a proportion of PS2 developers getting any real expected performance out of the PS2


Even lesser devs on Xbox and GC will have better looking games do to simplicity of hardware effects

Time will tell but early on the PS2 is a Mountain that is still being climbed.

Wow amazing somehere is actually telling the truth instead of making **** up about PSX2 FSAA being superiour to XBOX\'s and GC.

As for PSX2 they did very nice job with the FSAA on GT3.

Originally posted by EThugg

Please give me a example of how future games will be done that will render AA obsolete. You cant cause it wont. And PS2, as nice as it is, is NOT innovative in ANY way. And fyi, I dont think XB or GC are either, so I\'m not being unfair.

The logical answer is:  On hyper-advanced consoles of the future, you just crank up the resolution and the jaggies become invisible, so why bother with Anti Aliasing?  Of course this doesn\'t apply to the PS2, which must maintain compatibility with old NTSC resolution TVs.

Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing

As for PSX2 they did very nice job with the FSAA on GT3.

At least we know it\'s possible. Thats the most important thing

I hope for the sake of the x-box that the games will be running @ 60fps. There\'s no excuse.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.

Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing

Are you on something, that pic you just posted is not using FSAA.

SORRY, I didnt know, it didnt say anywhere that it wasnt on, but why wouldnt you make a screen shot of your game that your trying to sell and not use the AA feature since its so good?

SORRY, I didnt know, it didnt say anywhere that it wasnt on, but why wouldnt you make a screen shot of your game that your trying to sell and not use the AA feature since its so good?

First off I apologize, I thought you were trying to pose that shot as a game using FSAA purposely. Second the reason they have not implemented FSAA is because it\'s too early into development, give them some time, they will use it eventually.

[BizioEE]

PS2 doesn\'t need FSAA via Hardware...

LOL,  Keep dreaming there bud, keep dreaming. If you think that the GETAWAY will look exactly like those pics you posted, then you are going to be very dissapointed when the game is released. Hell i\'m not even going to bother to get into why PSX2 cannot produce those kind of textures, etc.... SOmeone else plese take this one

And people ***** about microsoft releasing fake pics. Those pics are not what the real game looks like.

Um... I wouldn\'t rely too much on those Getaway screens...

[BizioEE]

Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
LOL,  Keep dreaming there bud, keep dreaming. If you think that the GETAWAY will look exactly like those pics you posted, then you are going to be very dissapointed when the game is released. Hell i\'m not even going to bother to get into why PSX2 cannot produce those kind of textures, etc.... SOmeone else plese take this one

LOL,







...do you want I post some GT3 pics?  

so...please...follow this thread...I mean...will we see FSAA on PS2 games?  The answer is "YES" !  ...look at some beautiful games coming(wait until E3 )....

so...tell me...why some PC-Zealots like you come here to speak about X-Box ?

Can you understand what a Thread ask you?