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« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2001, 08:47:25 AM »
According to UK PSM2 the European version of Tekken Tag Tournament uses FSAA!

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« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2001, 09:16:27 AM »
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so...tell me...why some PC-Zealots like you come here to speak about X-Box ?

Can you understand what a Thread ask you?


Are you on Crack!!!! First off who is a PC zealot, certainly not me, cause I don\'t play PC games. You just automatically assume I’m a PC Zealot cause I’m all for  XBOX, now that is just ignorant

SECOND, who ever said that PSX2 couldn\'t do AA, I know I didn’t. I think that maybe if you even bothered to read all the threads you would have seen the debate here, isn\'t weather or not PSX2 can do AA it\'s all how well it does AA, and how XBOX and GAMEGUBE\'s FSAA is by far much more superior than PSX2, which it is.

So please go back and start reading all the threads, before you bother to give me a response.

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« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2001, 09:56:41 AM »
FSAA is overrated. "at least the methods used in current hardware."
It would be better to use Edge-AA for "jaggies" and proper texture filtering to get textures more clear when triangle is tilted. This would allowe better image quality and would be faster than Quix_AA.
"tough in normal way of edge-AA one needs to render scene from front to back, "or B to F"

actualy its much faster, my old good Verite 2200 ran GP legends at 1024x768 with edge_aa at about 24fps. "card had filrate of voodoo I.. about"
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« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2001, 05:46:01 PM »
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LOL,  Keep dreaming there bud, keep dreaming. If you think that the GETAWAY will look exactly like those pics you posted, then you are going to be very dissapointed when the game is released. Hell i\'m not even going to bother to get into why PSX2 cannot produce those kind of textures, etc.... SOmeone else plese take this one




Dude if there is one thing we are all sure of is the fact that you don\'t have a clue of why or what the PS2 is capable of.



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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2001, 08:17:48 PM »
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Dude if there is one thing we are all sure of is the fact that you don\'t have a clue of why or what the PS2 is capable of.


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                                DDaryl I don\'t mean too sound like an ass, but I think your full of it, if you believe THE GETAWAY will look that good, and I mean particularly the background then you my friend are blind.

Never the less, we will wait and see when the GETAWAY comes out, which one of us was right. I am going to copy the quote above, so that I may stick it in your face(I don’t mean to sound offence here)  when the game is released, and we will see who knew what they were talking about. If I turn out to be wrong, I will accept the fact that I was talking out of my ass, and that I had no clue what I was talking about, nor any thing the PSX2 is capable of. Though I feel I am going to be the right one here, until then Ddaryl……


PS. the background is way too sharp, not only would it take a gigantic performance hit on PSX2, you would need a computer monitor to display the buildings at that resolution, and people don\'t give me this crap about NTSC 640x480 TV\'s being able to produce those resolutions. I will be absolutely shocked if the game Looks exactly like that pic on a TV, just blown away.

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« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2001, 08:36:48 PM »
I could careless wether Your wrong or I\'m right

You strut around here doing the debate thing day in and day out and act like you know somethign about the PS2\'s architexture and you don\'t

The Getaway may not look like the pics above heck those are too clean but it will come close.

Each texture is taken from a digital photograph . Show me another game that recreates a 25km area by using digital photos to abstract textures from


Your just as bad a PS2 Zealots putting down Xbox your constantly trying your very hardest to belittle the PS2 in an anal attempt to make XBox superior. ALways looking for its flaws and always on the attack cause you have to be right.

Give it a rest, people will choose what they want they will play what they want and they\'ll make up there own minds



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« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2001, 08:47:46 PM »
Once the better developers figure out the how to best code their games on the PS2, I think that the freedom of software AA will allow for greater products.  I always cite the difference from FFVII\'s to FFIX\'s graphics.  They were just a quantum leap ahead, though on the exact same system.  
Already games (GT3, FFX) are begining to blow away the release PS2 games, and I have no doubt that it\'s only going to improve as devs figure the PS2 out.  With hardware AA, then what you see now, is what you will get in 2 years.  So, yeah, looks great.  Lets see how it\'s stacks up in the long run!
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« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2001, 10:17:00 PM »
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The Getaway may not look like the pics above heck those are too clean but it will come close.



That\'s what i was saying, it\'s not that i think PSX2 is crap, but when people post misinformation I must correct. Will the game look close, who knows, we will have to wait till they realese a downloadable video preview.

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You strut around here doing the debate thing day in and day out and act like you know somethign about the PS2\'s architexture and you don\'t



I never had clamed that I am technical wiz when it comes to PSX2 hardware, but what I do know, and which you also agree upon, is that the Psx2 cannot produce those pics in real-time.   This is what I was saying all along, and it doesn’t take a genius to know that PSX2 cannot create a game to match that pic Exactly.  Hey Ddaryl that\'s the best screenshot taken from any video game in history, Just look how damn sharp and detailed those building are.


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Your just as bad a PS2 Zealots putting down Xbox your constantly trying your very hardest to belittle the PS2 in an anal attempt to make XBox superior


Not at all, usually I would only come to these forums to read posts, I never really cared to reply, until I saw all the crap that was being posted here, like how XBOX will be $450, or how PSX2 software AA is better than XBOX, and also people who post incorrect facts about XBOX.
I could honestly care less if anyone here get XBOX or not, all I care is that I get one at launch. You never see me Creating threads saying, PSX2 sucks, or XBOX is better than PSX2. Nope, I just defend the XBOX Whenever I see bull**** posted about it. Take this thread for example,  BizioEE posts GETAWAY PICS saying psx2 doesn’t need AA, and using fake pics(yes they are fake, if they are not from the actual in game, them are not real, like the mock up amped photo\'s) to show off PSX2 power, what a joke. LOL, oh by the way why do people bltch about mocked up photo\'s , I don\'t see anyone complaining about the super enhanced GETAWAY pics that were released in the beginning, like the one just posted here.

Anyways, that\'s just my .02 cents

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« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2001, 11:32:18 PM »
Well what do you expect on a PS2 site.

There is alot of Xbox crap here, nothing you and I can do to change that. The proof will be in the final release of the system

The Getaway will lok amazing how amazing I don\'t know


i just grow tired of the my console is better than yours or the PS2 is bad at this and that



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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2001, 12:38:07 AM »
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Well what do you expect on a PS2 site.

There is alot of Xbox crap here, nothing you and I can do to change that. The proof will be in the final release of the system

The Getaway will lok amazing how amazing I don\'t know


i just grow tired of the my console is better than yours or the PS2 is bad at this and that



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« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2001, 02:13:25 AM »
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PS. the background is way too sharp, not only would it take a gigantic performance hit on PSX2, you would need a computer monitor to display the buildings at that resolution, and people don\'t give me this crap about NTSC 640x480 TV\'s being able to produce those resolutions.

okay, I agree with you about tose pics being supped up, but like you say, when false information is given I must correct: those pics are in fact possible on a tv, just check by right clicking on them it will say: resolution is 600, 378
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« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2001, 03:23:15 AM »
Yes, resolution wise it would be possible to show on a regular TV. It just wouldn\'t look as good/sharp of course.
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« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2001, 03:25:35 AM »
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when false information is given I must correct: those pics are in fact possible on a tv, just check by right clicking on them it will say: resolution is 600, 378


Oh i agree that it\'s at that resoultion, but your forgetting one thing, in which i must CORRECT you. Those pics have been condensed, so they may have been taken at a low resoultion, but then they were sized down. Go ahead and cut and paste it in photoshop, and enlarge the pic, looks looks just like it\'s on a tv.

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« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2001, 04:52:11 AM »
Sony should have whacked in Hardware Anti Alising.

But back then the fill rate was very impressive of the ps2, so it should have done it well. As the voodoo 5 did.

Xbox will be much better.

Look at Quintex Anti Alising. Looks close to 4x AA and still a kick arse framerate on pc\'s.

But with xbox only outputting at 640x480, expect super high frame rates at all times.
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« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2001, 03:57:54 PM »
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But with xbox only outputting at 640x480, expect super high frame rates at all times


Actually the XBOX will out put at much higher resoultions, easly twice that. Now it may depend on the developer weather they allow it too, but games like HALO and such will be at much higher resloution for those with PC monitors and HDTV\'s.

 

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