Author Topic: Cya PS2! Hello XBOX! (Read 7938 times)

« **Reply #90 on:** July 08, 2001, 05:00:34 AM »

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system is NBA2k2 coming out for? xbox (and dreamcast)
What system is NFL2k2 coming out for? xbox (and dreamcast)
What system is NBA2k2 coming out for? Xbox "exclusively"
What systems is NFL2k2 coming out for? xbox "exclusively"

You are full of it. And this will be the last time I spend my time responding to you. Get a clue, and stop making claims which are untrue. If you don\'t know that Sega Sports is developing for all consoles, then you don\'t know much @ all. Dull Reaver.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.

« **Reply #91 on:** July 08, 2001, 11:37:22 AM »

CONGRATULATIONS EVERYONE!
THIS THREAD HAS BECOME THE OFFICIAL TALK OUT YOUR ASS BULLSH|T THRED!
AND IT\'S ALL THANKS TO YOU!!

Reading this crap makes me want to vomit with boredom.

« **Reply #92 on:** July 08, 2001, 02:23:28 PM »

Calm down Bob.

« **Reply #93 on:** July 08, 2001, 05:00:28 PM »

this thread has some of the longest posts ive ever seen.......

and please lets not have some of the great members fight about eachother. i hate it when people just start insulting each other.

« **Reply #94 on:** July 08, 2001, 05:47:29 PM »

I have created a monster

« **Reply #95 on:** July 08, 2001, 06:25:01 PM »

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Originally posted by ViVi
I have created a monster

yep its all your fault VIVI, look at what youve done!!!!

youve made a thread so big that i dont want to read it all, and i bet only about 5 people actually have....

« **Reply #96 on:** July 08, 2001, 06:39:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Falcon4

yep its all your fault VIVI, look at what youve done!!!!

youve made a thread so big that i dont want to read it all, and i bet only about 5 people actually have....

Well, I\'m sure more have been reading since the begining. I\'ve read at least page 3 and most of 2.

« **Reply #97 on:** July 08, 2001, 06:55:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Falcon4

yep its all your fault VIVI, look at what youve done!!!!

youve made a thread so big that i dont want to read it all, and i bet only about 5 people actually have....

The trick is to start reading the thread when it was started, then when more people post, just read the last few posts. Ok, call me wise grasshopper.

NOT.

« **Reply #98 on:** July 08, 2001, 06:57:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Toxical

The trick is to start reading the thread when it was started, then when more people post, just read the last few posts. Ok, call me wise grasshopper. NOT.

More like Wise Cricket. Thanks, I was trying to say the same thing but the words didn\'t come out as profound as yours, oh great and mighty cricket.

« **Reply #99 on:** July 08, 2001, 07:03:53 PM »

In most of the quote battles you usually want to go back to and read through it all just to get a feel more of what the debate is about. In other threads, read the first post, then the next 3, then the last 4-5 and your set.

« **Reply #100 on:** July 08, 2001, 08:00:29 PM »

100 replies!

yah yah, i spam, sue me.

« **Reply #101 on:** July 08, 2001, 08:03:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Ryu
100 replies!

yah yah, i spam, sue me.

I was watching this thread in agony, knowing that I didn\'t have anything productive in which to be #100. It was at 99 for about two hours!

So how does it feel Ryu, or should I address you as "King Spam."

« **Reply #102 on:** July 09, 2001, 12:59:28 AM »

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by bob:
apart from the fact that they didnt lose, they actually did pretty well...but Nintendo screwed up big time, and released a console way too late. PSX was lucky, it came in at the right time when the industry needed another console, and gathered a lot more developer support than Nintendo and the \'Ultra 64\'

by the time N64 was released, PSX was gathering a great reputation for fun games and casual gamers started hooking in. Games like Resident Evil, Tekken, Ridge Racer etc...started PSx on its role so it had an early head start against its only competition...so far, this is happening again this generation...PS2 is in early, with similar titles, that compared to later generation titles are low quality, and its going against consoles released a LONG TIME after it, that are hyped up and dont have good reputations

untrue...yes it was released late..but this is not the reason it failed. When it hit....it sold out of ever console in the US. The console war that just ended was won in the LATER years of theri developement. Third and fourth. During those later years PS continued on their output of LOTS of games. But in nintendo\'s later years it was REALLY apparent that lack of third party developement was hurting them as only two or three "quality" games were being released a year.

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by bob:
Dreamcast was a success in USA...not a success anywhere else. EA Sports will have its sports range on PS2 out way before it does on the other consoles, and way before sega does also..EA has a bigger reputation and casual fans know of it better than the Sega games

well thats true...EA is the #1 game developer in the world....but that doesn\'t mean that they will stay that way. They guys at sega are out to dethrone them...and if youve ever played ANY of there sports game you know its highly likely that it can happen. Not all of EA\'s sports titles are good. their hockey game sucked as well as many others. Their NBA franchise doesn\'t even come close to that of NBA2k series, and Basket ball title to this date is NBA streetz....

With the backing of MS 500 MILLION dollars advertising compaign SEGA SPORTS is bound to get there deserved audienced. EA will have a HUGE problem tring to match the advertising that MS is about to give sega sports.

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i disagree...i dont think they look better than the best of what PS2 has to offer, based on videos ive seen off the net. XBox currently graphically, is disappointing me, sure the games look good, but they arent good enough...gameplay may be a different story however...and yes, i will like to see what games will look like developed entirely on XDK\'s...at the moment...we wont see will we. At the moment, i believe that PS2 has the edge on graphics

Your a hypocrite...You might not agree that the xbox pics look better than ps2\'s....BUT you cant deny that they are not equal dude.(their better and you know it;))
That said....how can you say xbox is graphically disapointing and the ps2 not?? cause if the xbox is disapointing then the ps2 is disapointing to. ESPECIALLY since both consoles do cost the same also.

go download the Devil MAy Cry pics and you\'ll see why people call it a jag station. BUT ps2 was supposed to be over that right?LOL .what ever.

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by bob:
actually, Square officailly came out and said FFX and FFXII will be exclusive to PS2 (dont ask me to find a link, its common knowledge ) Square has officially stated that 23 games are being made for PS2, maybe more...how many games are officially announced for XBox....none...how many games are speculated to go to XBox...1...Final Fantasy 11...the online FF

that aint common knowlege dude. Yes..they said 23 games are being made for the ps2...but they didn\'t say that they wont be making them for other consoles either. Sure non-are officially announced...but give it time dude...It going to happen.

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good point...maybe you should tell Nacmo, Enix, Square, Konami, etc. etc. all the big developers the same thing...its funny how some consoles get exclusive game, when developers would make a lot more money if they went multiconsole

toot on Soul Reaver

some get exclussive cause the game cant be done on any other system. Some developers are not that smart as well. Notice that non of those developers even comes close to matching EA\'s revenues....a company who\'s sole fortune comes from selling to MULTICONSOLES. Others are starting to get the clue. Notice that Konami is taking thier games MULTICONSOLE now. *cough*MGSX*cough*

developers are starting to get it...square will to. YOu know...square is in financial troubles becuase of sony....why would they throw all their apples into that one basket?

« **Reply #103 on:** July 09, 2001, 01:34:42 AM »

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by Ironfist:
most casual gamers have played them? So you are saying that over 75 million people have played NBA2k2 or NFL2k2 on a console that hasn\'t even sold 20 million units? I find that hard to believe. Who\'s the one talking BS now?

I guess you nieve enough to think that they only people who have played dreamcast games are only the people who bought them?:rolleyes: peole go to their friends house and play them...and people play the in stores like best buy. Now if each dreamcast owner had a friend over to play it.....then now wever talking about 40 million people play it right? if each dreamcast owner had more than one person come over and play it ....then you see how that number grows exponentially.

I dont own a ps2 man...and i bet Ive played more ps2 games than over 75% of the people here.

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by IronFist:
You misunderstood him. He was saying that he would rather spend his money on all the great PS2 games coming out this year instead of wasting it on an Xbox with very few great games. (That last part was my oppinion. )

thats pretty funny. Cause you still dont know if they are going to be good are not. Ps2 released a LOT of games this year that were "specualted" to being GREAT....but when they hit....they were not so great. It\'s been happening a LOT lately...and just because now ps2 is getting a few games that actually lived up to there hype....they NOT proven themselves to have broken out of that pattern just yet.

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by IronFist:
I\'m thinking a lot like they look now. Again, this is my oppinion, but I don\'t think the Xbox is going to advance very much. It\'s going to have the same quality of graphics throughout its life. It will be just like the Dreamcast. Soul Calibur was one of the best looking games on the Dreamcast, and it was a launch title.

thats funny?? I see you know nothing about programing if you think that. Programers are always finding ways to get more out of the hardware...that situation is NOT EXCLUSIVE to the ps2. You are talking about the most advanced gpu in the world....and you think that technology will be mastered from day one? LOL:D Sure they have some familar tools in direct x to work with ...but the new direct x has all kinds of nice trucks that iut can do that programers have yet to discover.....go read up on it before you make a comment like that. Its an insult to every programer out there.

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by Ironfist:
Ok, well I\'m talking about how good PS2 games will look when the developers use it how it was meant to be used. They are understanding it more and more every day. Just imagine how good the PS2 games will look next year.

It looking to me that developers will not be learning how to do that until the ps2 is almost dead. Its the second year and developers aren\'t even close. the only people advancing are SONY\'s companies and THEY MADE THE CONSOLE so it should be like that. Other developers are STILL struggling. GT3 is a great leap...but thats a sony company....look at capcom..
onimusha uses "pre-rendered" back grounds cause they had problems with anuthing else. ONIMUSHA2 is STILL using "prerendered" back grounds and they claimed that they would understand the technology by the second time around so they would use prerendered backgrounds.....looks like they are still having problems cause they did not live up to there promise.

Should I meantion Devil May Cry again?? Jag heaven man...whats up with that??

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by Ironfist:
FFXI can\'t be successful on the Xbox if the Xbox is not successful. There are too many things that the Xbox is competing with. Chances are it won\'t be successful. And only 1/10 of all Xbox owners will be able to play FFXI online, because the Xbox only supports Broadband. Very stupid mistake by Microsoft.

There were to many things sony was competing with when they entered this indusrty dude....but they prevailed didn\'t they.

and lets see....broadband and hard drive are FREE with xbox....(both are needed to play FFXI) and in order to play this game on ps2 I have to BUY BOTH a hard drive and a modem....a total price of 190 dollars. Which is MORE stupid!!! if according to you only 1/10 of all xbox owners are going to be able to play FFXI...

then like only 1/50 of all ps2 owners are going to be able to play this game cause people aint going to shell out 190 dollars PLUS 50.00 for the game just to get their Final fantasy on. Who the hell is going to pay 240.00 to play one game??? LOL.....and you say XBox is stupid....LOL LOL LOL LOL OMG....LOL!!:D

Bobs_Hardware · « **Reply #104 on:** July 09, 2001, 01:39:53 AM »

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Originally posted by JediMaster
Calm down Bob.

i am calm...me and Soul Reaver are good buds...i enjoy debating with him...maybe you should calm down

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Originally posted by Soul_Reaver

untrue...yes it was released late..but this is not the reason it failed. When it hit....it sold out of ever console in the US. The console war that just ended was won in the LATER years of theri developement. Third and fourth. During those later years PS continued on their output of LOTS of games. But in nintendo\'s later years it was REALLY apparent that lack of third party developement was hurting them as only two or three "quality" games were being released a year.

dood, of course its gonna sell out, just as the gamecube will, just as XBox might, just as DC did...hardcore gamers do their research and know what console they are going to get...its only after about half a year or more that casual gamers start getting into it. So therefore, maybe it is a little haste to rule out XBox early...but i just got a bad feeling about it...but...this is really irrelevant to our current debate

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well thats true...EA is the #1 game developer in the world....but that doesn\'t mean that they will stay that way. They guys at sega are out to dethrone them...and if youve ever played ANY of there sports game you know its highly likely that it can happen. Not all of EA\'s sports titles are good. their hockey game sucked as well as many others. Their NBA franchise doesn\'t even come close to that of NBA2k series, and Basket ball title to this date is NBA streetz....

i think it would be hard for Sega to dethrown EA...EA are too huge, they gross the most income, and they are also the biggest...owning companies from Bullfrog, to Westwood...they are too huge, and their sports titles are too wide spread to be upset.

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With the backing of MS 500 MILLION dollars advertising compaign SEGA SPORTS is bound to get there deserved audienced. EA will have a HUGE problem tring to match the advertising that MS is about to give sega sports.

Sega will not get their deserved audience if it actually is exclusive...EA will always have the bigger audience

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Your a hypocrite...You might not agree that the xbox pics look better than ps2\'s....BUT you cant deny that they are not equal dude.(their better and you know it;))
That said....how can you say xbox is graphically disapointing and the ps2 not?? cause if the xbox is disapointing then the ps2 is disapointing to. ESPECIALLY since both consoles do cost the same also.

PS2 hasnt really impressed me so far with what i thought was promised...however, it sports the only games that make me go "Wow" yes, "Wow". XBox hasnt gotten that reaction from me yet...and when it does, you\'ll be the first to know dood, thats a promise

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go download the Devil MAy Cry pics and you\'ll see why people call it a jag station. BUT ps2 was supposed to be over that right?LOL .what ever.

PS2 is over it...its whether developers want to implement it or not...download Tekken Tag Tournament pics...do you see jaggies? yes....play the game, do you see jaggies? no...same with most games, and the games that do have bad jaggies (i.e. TimeSplitters) you never notice it...Jaggies really arent a big problem, and you know it...its just a failsafe for XBox and Gamecube fans to tease PS2 fans about

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that aint common knowlege dude. Yes..they said 23 games are being made for the ps2...but they didn\'t say that they wont be making them for other consoles either. Sure non-are officially announced...but give it time dude...It going to happen.

im sure it will *waits patiently*

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some get exclussive cause the game cant be done on any other system. Some developers are not that smart as well. Notice that non of those developers even comes close to matching EA\'s revenues....a company who\'s sole fortune comes from selling to MULTICONSOLES. Others are starting to get the clue. Notice that Konami is taking thier games MULTICONSOLE now. *cough*MGSX*cough*

uhuh, yes i will be awaiting MGSX...a whole year after its released on PS2...mmm

that is a system seller for the PS2...not for the XBox. Ieve discussed about EA before in this thread

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developers are starting to get it...square will to. YOu know...square is in financial troubles becuase of sony....why would they throw all their apples into that one basket?

yes, just as how Square, Namco and Enix are teaming up to ensure PS2 stays the number one console, as that is what they are throwing most of their eggs into

woo...good to see this debate is dying down...too much typing for me