The MOST UNBELIEVABLE IN-GAME GRAPHICS EVER. CG- QUALITY!!! On GC!!!!!!!!!

http://home.collegeclub.com/Artstudent99/RS2RougeLeader.html

Skarbus over at the gaming-age.com forums scanned these from the Nov. EGM. That\'s why they\'re a little grainy.

WOW. Should I repeat that or will you?

Can anybody say "CG-quality graphics are now possible on a home system??!!?!!?!?!"

And on first-generation software!!!!!!

Say "identical to the movie" for me!!!!!!

Gamecube+RS2=250
Xbox+Obi-wan=350

HARD CHOICE...not.

The game is truly an amazing piece of work...nothing comes close(Of course, some might think MGS2 is the best, and i respect their opinions)...

Who on earth is going to belive all of that xbox bull**** this fall when they see these kinds of graphics on a system 100 dollars cheaper? NO ONE...

Thank you VERY much Factor5:)

Ok and what other games besides this one is there?  Xbox\'s lineup is much better!  Halo, DOA3, Project Gotham, NFL Fever, and more!

Originally posted by Megiddo

Who on earth is going to belive all of that xbox bull**** this fall when they see these kinds of graphics on a system 100 dollars cheaper? NO ONE...

unfortunately on the gamecube we\'ll be seeing more of the kiddie colorful games and less of the rogue leader type games...which is why i prolly wont be getting it until the 3rd parties become a factor...

until then,  the xbox has dvd playback,  a hard drive and mature titles thatll intrigue more teens and adults...

Ok and what other games besides this one is there? Xbox\'s lineup is much better! Halo, DOA3, Project Gotham, NFL Fever, and more!

Halo?..yawn...20-30fps, NO on-line like promised, just your average run of the mill FPS that clones Tribes.....It\'s hardly any intrest to me.

DOA3?..Keep it, looks like ****, plays like ****..just like DOA2.

Project Gotham?..LOL, you have GOT to be joking? the damn game looks no better than the DC version..GT3 destroys it quite nicely.

NFL fever?..yawn..Looks horrible, plays like crap too...


This so-called "good" game line-up is a damn joke.

unfortunately on the gamecube we\'ll be seeing more of the kiddie colorful games and less of the rogue leader type games...

Yes yes..Lets just ignore the RE annoucement because it suits my needs...grow the hell up.

which is why i prolly wont be getting it until the 3rd parties become a factor...

Stay with the xbox, it\'s in dire need of morons...enlistment center: teamxbox.com

until then, the xbox has dvd playback, a hard drive and mature titles thatll intrigue more teens and adults...

You need to pay 30$ to play a DVD, and the HDD is of no importance....just a gimmick to lure in simple minded people..and it\'s working.

Umm.. Im still waiting for those CG-ish screens..
Hello, people??

Yes those are very nice..
But I demand better quality!!!!

Originally posted by Megiddo
Halo?..yawn...20-30fps, NO on-line like promised, just your average run of the mill FPS that clones Tribes.....It\'s hardly any intrest to me.

Locked at 30fps, big difference. Show me another FPS on another console that has all the action of HALO and still manages to keep a framerate like that. Bungie is still optimizing the framerates, it was said in the most recent HALO update.

DOA3?..Keep it, looks like ****, plays like ****..just like DOA2.

Looks like ****? Show me a fighter on another console with backgrounds as huge, and vast as DOA3\'s. Plays like ****? Show me a fighter that has the fast paced Jet Li style action like DOA3. Show me a fighter that lets you knock people off 4 story buildings.

Project Gotham?..LOL, you have GOT to be joking? the damn game looks no better than the DC version..GT3 destroys it quite nicely.

MSR didn\'t have the beautiful reflection mapping of Project Gotham, that alone makes the game look a whole lot better than MSR. but theres more... Geometry on both the enviroments and cars have been increased significantly, and the game even has some volumetric fog coming from the sewers.

... "looks no better than the DC version"... You\'re a funny one.

NFL fever?..yawn..Looks horrible, plays like crap too..

IGN says its the best looking football game ever right now. And check out the screenshots on another thread that was posted. Looks very comparable to Madden 2k2, dont you think? I guess Madden 2k2 looks like crap as well, huh?

This so-called "good" game line-up is a damn joke.

I\'m on the floor laughing right now....... Really...... :rolleyes:

You need to pay 30$ to play a DVD, and the HDD is of no importance....just a gimmick to lure in simple minded people..and it\'s working.

Charging for the DVD remote: MS trying to prevent what happened to Sony last year(People buying the system for a cheap DVD player instead of buying games. Sony and their 3rd party developers lost quite a bit of cash). And considering you\'re getting a DVD player thats of much higher quality than the PS2\'s, I think the $30 price tag is justified.

The HDD is of no importance?... Yeah, you\'re right. Being able to stream massive worlds without any bit of loading times is no big deal. Being able to store thousands upon thousands of save files while still being able to buy a cheap memory card to transfer the files over to your friends\' house is nothing to get excited about. Being able to update your games with extra characters, level editors, and other nifty features is a bunch o\' bull. And having it built-in, so all developers will be able to support the spiffy features of the HDD doesn\'t get me excited at-all... I mean, who would want all of that? Not me... Bleh...[/sarcasm]

Its pretty obvious that you\'re anti-Xbox... But c\'mon now, be a little more open minded.

Locked at 30fps, big difference. Show me another FPS on another console that has all the action of HALO and still manages to keep a framerate like that. Bungie is still optimizing the framerates, it was said in the most recent HALO update.

It\'s funny how the most amazing, powerful console on the planet--Microsoft.....has to be vehemntly defended non stop because the frame-rates are laughable at best when compared to the Gamecube and the PS2 and yes, even the Dreamcast.

Looks like ****? Show me a fighter on another console with backgrounds as huge, and vast as DOA3\'s. Plays like ****? Show me a fighter that has the fast paced Jet Li style action like DOA3. Show me a fighter that lets you knock people off 4 story buildings.

Show me a movie where i can jump out the window and fight on the bridge..OH WAIT...I CAN\'T DO THAT? ..SO THE WHAT THE **** IS THE POINT?..it\'s a Gimmick, and a poor one at that...The enviroments are pretty damn static, small..you can\'t go anywhere..IT\'S A DAMN FIGHTER, YOU\'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE:laughing:

Gameplay? Show me a fighter that is better than VF4..nuff said.

MSR didn\'t have the beautiful reflection mapping of Project Gotham, that alone makes the game look a whole lot better than MSR. but theres more... Geometry on both the enviroments and cars have been increased significantly, and the game even has some volumetric fog coming from the sewers.

Looks like **** next to GT3..and that\'s all i was saying...It\'s so funny how i got you go compare it to the DC version..the MIGHTY XBOX vs the DC...

"looks no better than the DC version"... You\'re a funny one.

XBOX vs DC..now THAT\'S funny:)

IGN says its the best looking football game ever right now. And check out the screenshots on another thread that was posted. Looks very comparable to Madden 2k2, dont you think? I guess Madden 2k2 looks like crap as well, huh?

Fever looks about equal to Madden2001...i\'ll give it that.

Charging for the DVD remote: MS trying to prevent what happened to Sony last year(People buying the system for a cheap DVD player instead of buying games. Sony and their 3rd party developers lost quite a bit of cash).

And? it\'s not built-in you HAVE to buy it to unlock this feature...pretty damn pathetic for a system like the xbox..it\'s the be all end all entertainment system...yet does not deliver.

And considering you\'re getting a DVD player thats of much higher quality than the PS2\'s, I think the $30 price tag is justified.

I think buying games, not remotes is important..guess the xbox zealots do not agree.

The HDD is of no importance?... Yeah, you\'re right.

I know this.

Being able to stream massive worlds without any bit of loading times is no big deal.

What game is doing this? yeah..NONE...what massive worlds? 64megs is not enough for \'massive\' worlds.

Being able to store thousands upon thousands of save files while still being able to buy a cheap memory card to transfer the files over to your friends\' house is nothing to get excited about.

So there are going to be thousands upon thousands of games  for the xbox?

Being able to update your games with extra characters, level editors, and other nifty features is a bunch o\' bull.

It has not happen..so yes, it\'s all BULL****.

And having it built-in, so all developers will be able to support the spiffy features of the HDD doesn\'t get me excited at-all... I mean, who would want all of that? Not me... Bleh...[/sarcasm]

Is this suppose to matter?..you Do not need the HDD for nothing..not online gaming, in-fact...in the previous editon of Next-Gen Magazine they confirmed that there are more developers making online games on the PS2 than on the Xbox..now how about that:)

Its pretty obvious that you\'re anti-Xbox... But c\'mon now, be a little more open minded.

You know me..i know you...lets leave it at that..OLD friend;)

Megiddo

congratulations dude I doubt anyone here could ever refer to you as a blind fanboy.

:rolleyes:


I strongly suggest you post more topics comparing console abilities. You have so much insight and understanding about these things and I think alot fo us would like to be enlightened.

You know me..i know you...lets leave it at that..OLD friend

That reminds me!!

Let sing it.. The barney song!

"I love you.. you love me.. da da da daa da da daaa."

Bah... Cant remember it :eyemouth:

Originally posted by Megiddo




Stay with the xbox, it\'s in dire need of morons...enlistment center: teamxbox.com


just a gimmick to lure in simple minded people..and it\'s working.

listen a**hole...youre obviously a newbie so let me explain somethings to you....first of all....do not insult people in your defenses...no need for sarcasm because it pisses people off,  specially sarcastic insults....try,  (if you can) to state your opinions in a mature fashion so that we could have a good debate instead of a name calling war.....i hate you already by the way you replied to my simple comment and how youre carrying on quoting every single phrase people make and replying to each sentence [ (a-la jumpman) sorry jumpman,  no offense to you,  i just hate when you do that ] i wouldve debated my word back with you but since youre so quick to insult,  then ill let the rest of the folks here handle it and Nu Gundam is doing a pretty good job so far
you should go to the NEWBIES COME HERE thread or the recent 10 COMMANDMENTS thread and read up.....and until you grow up and learn how to have a discussion,  i have no respect for you or what you have to say.

and for the record,  i called this c-unt face an a**hole because he insulted me first.

Originally posted by Megiddo
It\'s funny how the most amazing, powerful console on the planet--Microsoft.....has to be vehemntly defended non stop because the frame-rates are laughable at best when compared to the Gamecube and the PS2 and yes, even the Dreamcast.

:rolleyes: Pretty much ignored my whole point. Tons of things going on in HALO. 30+ enemies on screen with advanced Aritificial Intelligence fighting around in a small Messhall without a hint of slowdown. Read the impressions from the first X-day on IGN...

And like I said before, framerates are still being optimized, I wouldn\'t be surprised if the game is running at a smooth 60fps in single player mode.

Show me a movie where i can jump out the window and fight on the bridge..OH WAIT...I CAN\'T DO THAT? ..SO THE WHAT THE **** IS THE POINT?..it\'s a Gimmick, and a poor one at that...The enviroments are pretty damn static, small..you can\'t go anywhere..IT\'S A DAMN FIGHTER, YOU\'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE:laughing:

O_O; Static? Small? The beach stage stretches out as far as you can see. You can move around on that beach and go as far as the mountains in the background(Watch some of the movies that show off the title screen). Look at my other thread entitled "DOA3 Midnight Madness", one one of the new screenshots they show Gen-Fu fighting Helena... Now, the rock formations you see in the background of that screenshot: The same mountains Brad Wong and another fighter were fighting on in the E3 trailer. The stages are HUGE. And you can explore quite a bit of \'em(Much more than you could in DOA2, anyways. ).

Gameplay? Show me a fighter that is better than VF4..nuff said.

I\'m not going to argue about gameplay, because it really depends on one\'s opinion. The majority of gamers in the U.S. like Tekken more than VF, does that mean its better? Most certainly not... Different taste, ya know?

Looks like **** next to GT3..and that\'s all i was saying...It\'s so funny how i got you go compare it to the DC version..the MIGHTY XBOX vs the DC...

Car models are quite a step up from GT3\'s. Ask anyone whos seen it in person(You could just ask me. ). Backgrounds, however, need some work... I think its an even trade-off.

And weren\'t you the one comparing it to the DC version? I was just trying to show you how flawed your comparision was.

XBOX vs DC..now THAT\'S funny:)

I\'m dying of laughter... Look at me! I\'m on my last breath!... Really! Look! :rolleyes:

Fever looks about equal to Madden2001...i\'ll give it that.

* Nu Gundam throws confetti.

And? it\'s not built-in you HAVE to buy it to unlock this feature...pretty damn pathetic for a system like the xbox..it\'s the be all end all entertainment system...yet does not deliver.

Correction: The PS2 is the be all end all entertainment system. Its the system that\'ll let you download movies, and search the web using AOL.

Not saying thats a bad thing, but the PS2 is more of a multimedia machine than the Xbox. MS doesn\'t even have any plans for letting the Xbox surf the web at the moment. All of its \'net features will be used for games, and games only...

I think buying games, not remotes is important..guess the xbox zealots do not agree.

Then why argue about having to buy the remote in the first place?

I guess you\'re in luck... MS doesn\'t really seem to be making a big deal out of the DVD playback, they seem to be more concerned about the games than anything else.

What game is doing this? yeah..NONE...what massive worlds? 64megs is not enough for \'massive\' worlds.

What game is doing this? HALO, sir. Huge worlds that stretch out as far as the eye can see. Takes quite a while to complete a mission.

And 64megs is probably enough for massive worlds like HALO... But not enough for them to be streamed constantly without any kind of break or loading screen. Its all seamless.

So there are going to be thousands upon thousands of games  for the xbox?

:rolleyes: You know what I meant. You dont need to worry about running out of space.

It has not happen..so yes, it\'s all BULL****.

* Nu Gundam snickers.

Itagaki(DOA3\'s producer) already has plans for updating the U.S. version of DOA3 through the use of the HD... Now, if DOA3 was on another next gen console, how would he go about doing this? ;o

Is this suppose to matter?..you Do not need the HDD for nothing..not online gaming, in-fact...in the previous editon of Next-Gen Magazine they confirmed that there are more developers making online games on the PS2 than on the Xbox..now how about that:)

Makes sense, since the PS2 has been out over a year and Sony\'s been working on getting their network up for only God knows how long. MS has just sent out their network information to their developers... And the plan is to have the network up Q1 next year.

You know me..i know you...lets leave it at that..OLD friend;)

So Nplayer, hows it goin\'?

Megiddo

This guy is a troll.  First he says the GC is the best system.  Then when presented with an argument he uses any console, any game in order to vainly prove a point.

You\'ve never played the xbox, yet you trash the playability of the games.  This is neat.  Can you teach me how you do it?

IGN (they seem to be Gods around here) says the 50% finished DOA3 build is better graphically, technically and gameplay-ically (lol) than any fighter (VF and Teken).  They\'ve played it, who are we to argue?

IGN says Fever looks better than any football game out there and that the gameplay is as good (in its own way) as any game out there.  Again, I\'ve never played it so I\'ll defer to them.

IGN said the graphics are better in GT3 than in PG.  You may have a point there.  Bravo.

Those screens look good, but when is it coming out?  What\'s the framerate?  And finally it\'s really not that impressive.  Yes, it\'s true.  Take a look at it again.  What beautiful backgrounds eh?  How many polys are they made up of?  Oh yes, zero.  A black texture/sprite with white dots.  That would leave a lot of system resources to make ships look that good wouldn\'t you think?  This could easily be done on either the PS2 or the xbox.  Get your head out of the sand and think about it for a minute.

At any rate, you are a mindless troll and will not be convinced of anything besides your ridiculous viewpoint so I\'m not going to really try.

Originally posted by Watchdog
Those screens look good, but when is it coming out?  What\'s the framerate?  And finally it\'s really not that impressive.  Yes, it\'s true.  Take a look at it again.  What beautiful backgrounds eh?  How many polys are they made up of?  Oh yes, zero.  A black texture/sprite with white dots.  That would leave a lot of system resources to make ships look that good wouldn\'t you think?

Eh... There are other stages with real polygonal BGs. And they look quite good.

This could easily be done on either the PS2 or the xbox.

PS2(Unfortunately), no... Xbox, yes(Factor5 said so themselves).

The ONLY impresives game on GC is RL2, RE, and luigi manision.  Xbox graphics so far beat gamecube pretty bad, I mean look at doa3, enclave, oddworld, project gothem, blood wake, project ego, project-k, duality, halo, jsr:f, gun valkiyle, and unreal tourment.    I think I prove my point xbox has better graphics and oh yeah xbox is launching with more than 3 games.  I don\'t see the big deal about gamecube or its weak graphics.  Most importantly xbox has more 3rd party support.  I can only name a hand full of truly impressive gamecube games, while xbox I can name a list of them.  RL does look nice but thats like the only mind blowing game on the system and thats it.:thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp: