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« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2002, 11:05:41 AM »
lol, the couse of this thread is hilarious
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« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2002, 11:06:24 AM »
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I know what I did, oh and go ahead and label Ohio, really I couldn\'t give a ****.  The difference though is I have seen ICP fans and have heard there music, and I\'m basing it all off of that but you yourself said you would be judging ohio even though you have never meet an Ohioan


I was being sarcastic, trying to show you were you went wrong.  

Have you seen all ICP fans?  You haven\'t seen me, so how can you judge me?  Why should you judge me based on the music I occasionally listen too?

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« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2002, 11:19:43 AM »
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pfft, someone tell this man what my favorite console is

*hint* ryu in hong kong



I see...

(And its RYO...)

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« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2002, 11:32:21 AM »
i know, i know

i just noticed it now, when i saw my typo
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« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2002, 06:04:46 PM »
mm i\'m tired of you making yourself look like your muli-console, sure you may own an xbox, but i\'ve been reading for the last 2 years your posts, and your all pro PS2--PLAIN and SIMPLE!

Why is it that you think, people keep accusing you of being a XBOX basher, all you do is praise PS2 and put XBOX down all the time.

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« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2002, 06:36:10 PM »
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Mainstream, it\'s all about mainstream.

Watchdog makes a point.

Often times, when touting a successful 32/64 bit game as revolutionary, one is suddenly cornered by the owner of a ridiculous number of gaming machines, many of them being horrendously obscure. They then point out a game on this obscure console that is more revolutionary than the 32/64 bit game in point. It is then that someone must point out to them that, while that game indeed did come up with the idea first, it wasn\'t the game that successfully revolutionized gaming, because it was not mainstream. If someone coincidentally came up with the exact same concept for a game as Metal Gear Solid and produced it prior to MGS\'s release, would that game be the revolutionary one? Of course not; Metal Gear Solid was the game that a substantial number of people bought into. Even if someone else came up with the idea first.

If two people make an idea, and one is successful and the other isn\'t, the successful idea is the one that revolutionized, regardless of whether or not it was first. There were three dimensional games prior to the Playstation, but there was never before a system entirely devoted to that genre of game making. It was revolutionary in the sense that it was a successful machine, that truly forced a 3D revolution; nothing before that hit the mainstream in the proper way.

Don\'t confuse the terms "Innovative" and "Revolutionary."
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« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2002, 08:09:36 PM »
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Why is it that you think, people keep accusing you of being a XBOX basher, all you do is praise PS2 and put XBOX down all the time


*yawn*
theres only one company i dont bash, sega

the PS2 has too many A+ games for me to bash it

if anything, im a sega whore.  better write that down so you dont forget, kid
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« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2002, 09:27:43 AM »
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There were three dimensional games prior to the Playstation, but there was never before a system entirely devoted to that genre of game making. It was revolutionary in the sense that it was a successful machine, that truly forced a 3D revolution; nothing before that hit the mainstream in the proper way.

Don\'t confuse the terms "Innovative" and "Revolutionary."


I agree that it was part of the 3D movement, I never debated that. The machine itself was not revolutionary...

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« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2002, 10:26:28 AM »
Yes, yes it was. While it wasn\'t the first machine to produce 3D videogames, it was the machine that brought about the 3D movement, therefore inspiring a revolution, and being revolutionary. It wasn\'t the innovator, but it was what inspired the revolution.
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« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2002, 11:48:57 AM »
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Yes, yes it was. While it wasn\'t the first machine to produce 3D videogames, it was the machine that brought about the 3D movement, therefore inspiring a revolution, and being revolutionary. It wasn\'t the innovator, but it was what inspired the revolution.



I don\'t agree with this...it was one of the machines...

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« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2002, 12:06:18 PM »
Okay. Name one of the other systems that truly inspired a complete turnover to 3D games.

And read the book \'Revolutionaries at Sony\' by Reiji Asakura. Fun stuff.
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« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2002, 01:23:47 PM »
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Okay. Name one of the other systems that truly inspired a complete turnover to 3D games.

And read the book \'Revolutionaries at Sony\' by Reiji Asakura. Fun stuff.


PS didn\'t inspire, 3D was the next step.  The idea of 3D was being implemented back in the SNES days, it was obviously what the next generation would bring.

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« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2002, 01:44:53 PM »
If it weren\'t for Sony, 2 dimensional systems may have continued for a longer time span than they did. Three 3D games on SNES weren\'t enough to make everyone thirst for nothing but 3D. Look at the Saturn; it was initially intended to be a 2D platform. It would\'ve undoubtedly been one, if it weren\'t for the PSX\'s forcing a 3D revolution to take place.
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« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2002, 01:53:51 PM »
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If it weren\'t for Sony, 2 dimensional systems may have continued for a longer time span than they did. Three 3D games on SNES weren\'t enough to make everyone thirst for nothing but 3D.


They technology wasn\'t there to make it full force.  The games didn\'t come out until it\'s last year or two.  It showed that the ideas were there...

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Look at the Saturn; it was initially intended to be a 2D platform. It would\'ve undoubtedly been one, if it weren\'t for the PSX\'s forcing a 3D revolution to take place.


What about the N64?  Was that intended to be 2D?  I don\'t know that and I doubt you do...

All I\'m trying to get across to you is that PS did not single handedly bring about 3D and "force" a "revolution".

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« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2002, 02:09:41 PM »
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*yawn*
theres only one company i dont bash, sega

the PS2 has too many A+ games for me to bash it

if anything, im a sega whore.  better write that down so you dont forget, kid


Hey mm where does your love for Sega come from?
I was very reluctant to by a Dreamcast, that\'s why it took me so long. I have had the master system, Genesis, sega CD,   which Sega bailed out on.  I went with the PSone instead of the saturn, which turned out to be a good choice.

 After spending thousands of dollars on games and machines , I really didn\'t want to support Sega anymore.  Only after i read that they will continue to make games for the DC did I buy one.

I really liked the Genesis and Sega cd, there were some nice games for that system.
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