VF4 is not good graphically ??

[BizioEE]

""Virtua Fighter 4 is not the visual masterpiece we were hoping for. While not poor by any stretch of the imagination, there is something about the look that just does not sit right. I thought it was just myself, but it was a general consensus among us that things did not gel together as they could have. The jaggies that plagued first generation PS2 titles have decided to rear their ugly head once again. It would appear that Sega-AM2 did not spend enough time with the hardware to find their way around the jaggy anti-aliasing issue. The game also flickers and shimmers which makes it look worse than it really is. When you take a very close look you can see that an incredible amount of work went into the character models but this is not conveyed due to the issues mentioned. The level environments borrow heavily from the Dead Or Alive series and lack any true interactive element.""

""Ultimately, Virtua Fighter 4 is not the groundbreaking title that many media outlets would have you believe. If you are a fan of the series then you will be right at home. However, if you like your fighting games to play more like Tekken of Soul Calibur then you should rent VF4 first to see if it suits your desires. Regardless, Virtua Fighter 4 still showcases the technical finesse of the series, albeit watered down somewhat.""

""In terms of extras, VF4 is a mixed bag. The one-player arcade mode (13 stages, and one-off encounter with Dural) is incredibly boring due to the fact that the stages play in order and result in the same ending over and over. This may work in arcades but for home conversions you have to offer a lot more incentive whether it be hidden arenas or different character endings.""

""For depth and originality gamers have always turned to the Virtua Fighter series. Therefore it is somewhat disappointing that Virtua Fighter 4 is missing many of the unique features that used to make it stand out from other brawlers.""


http://www.psx2central.com/reviews/psx2vf4.htm


Sorry people,but I have to say that...I want a new and enhanced XBox or GC version of this game with better graphics and more extras!

I agree with most of it except for this part:

The level environments borrow heavily from the Dead Or Alive series...

Umm, wah?  Whoever wrote this, do you mind clarifying a little bit?

Originally posted by BizioEE


Sorry people,but I have to say that...I want a new and enhanced XBox or GC version of this game with better graphics and more extras!

Bizzio, in this instance I can\'t say that I blame you one bit.

Anyone else besides me think this is just Sega\'s way of taking a swipe at Sony for dealing the death blow to their console biz? Along with making a few quick bucks at the same time, naturally.

Eh, have to rent it and see if I really care one way or the other. Usually get my fill of a fighter in a session or two.

Sega taking a swipe at Sony?

Not really.. I\'d take Virtua Fighter 4 over 18 Wheeler, Sonic Adventure 2, or Home Run King any day.

AM2 squeezed the PS2 hardware and got everything they could out of it..

Originally posted by Blade

AM2 squeezed the PS2 hardware and got everything they could out of it..

I\'ll have to see Tekken4 and SC2 then talk about how hard AM2 tried. From the way it\'s described so far it sounds like it looks worse than US PS2 launch fighters.

BTW, we are talking only about looks now. I understand fans of the genre will pick it up and have a good time regardless.

Originally posted by Blade

AM2 squeezed the PS2 hardware and got everything they could out of it..

what in 7 months i dont think so

Why is everyone whining so damn much?  This is the greatest fighting game ever.  Just go play it.  You want graphics buy a GeForce4 and a flatscreen.

yeah, since when did you guys become graphic tarts?

its a button masher, anyhoo

This is so funny...

A game turns out to be less than expected (graphics) on PS2 and the developer gets blamed.  

If the same thing happened on Xbox, mm would step in and say something like "and this is the PS2 killah".  Refering to the Xbox itself instead of the developers.

classic...

Originally posted by Rikku
This is so funny...

A game turns out to be less than expected (graphics) on PS2 and the developer gets blamed.  

If the same thing happened on Xbox, mm would step in and say something like "and this is the PS2 killah".  Refering to the Xbox itself instead of the developers.

classic...

:crap:

no we blame the developers...beleve me WE DO !

just look back over the history of this site and you will see me Bashing Team Ninja as a bunch of over rated  Keyboard monkeys !

in fact i have Vodoo Dolls made up of the Team Ninja Staff for producing both DOA2 on the PS2 and DOA3 on the X box !

DOA = NEWBIE button mashing Piece of :crap: !

Its a frickin port! What do you expect?
Games built from the ground up = BETTER (technically)





[graphics whore mode on] Both games have real-time shadows (unlike VF4), SC2 has self shadowing (which was "impossible" on PS2 according to some Xzelots), Tekken 4 has VGA  support (525p) (this was impossible aswell..) Tekken 4 has AA (Im not sure if its FSAA) SC2 will prolly have AA aswell.

Tekken 4 on PS2 is "better" than the arcade version..
Nuff said really.

Namco knows their ****.. This was AM2\'s first port.

[BizioEE]

Originally posted by Heretic


I\'ll have to see Tekken4 and SC2 then talk about how hard AM2 tried. From the way it\'s described so far it sounds like it looks worse than US PS2 launch fighters.

BTW, we are talking only about looks now. I understand fans of the genre will pick it up and have a good time regardless.

I don\'t know how much power AM2 squeezed from PS2...
...sure they\'re very talented and know how to program a multi processor machine...but they didn\'t spend all the time that Namco and other developers spent on PS2,for example...
...Sega\'s way of taking a swipe at Sony ? ...AM2 squeezed the PS2 hardware and got everything they could out of it...as Blade has said?  or AM2 didn\'t spent enough time on this complex machine?  I think the last one is more likely...let\'s wait for Tekken4...

[BizioEE]

SC2 has self shadowing (which was "impossible" on PS2 according to some Xzelots)

PS2 can do almost everything via software...the only problem is that you waste a lot of power and you can\'t get the same result of both XBox and GC !

Originally posted by BizioEE


PS2 can do almost everything via software...the only problem is that you waste a lot of power and you can\'t get the same result of both XBox and GC !

Yes it does it in software (tough its available in libraries now so its more like copy and paste the code - i reckon)
It takes more time to do it on PS2 than GC and Xbox.
But remember PS2s CPU was built to do alot things in software it CAN take the hit (the EE is the best CPU this generation).

And you can get the same result on PS2 as on Xbox and GC.
Software= optimise-able
Hardware= unchangeable

Thing is.. You can probably get a better result with PS2 if your willing to put time into it.

[BizioEE]

Originally posted by fastson


Yes it does it in software (tough its available in libraries now so its more like copy and paste the code - i reckon)
It takes more time to do it on PS2 than GC and Xbox.
But remember PS2s CPU was built to do alot things in software it CAN take the hit (the EE is the best CPU this generation).

Yes,the EE is the best CPU but it has to do everything,and though you have,theoretically,more freadom to get some "effects",you have to admit that "effects" via software are much more slower than "effects" via hardware!

And you can get the same result on PS2 as on Xbox and GC.
Software= optimise-able
Hardware= unchangeable

Thing is.. You can probably get a better result with PS2 if your willing to put time into it.

I\'m really sceptical on this...I\'d like to see a game which shows me that...and not waiting other 2 years for other hypothetical untapped power...