Whew, that was a close one.

[videoholic]

SO like when the meteor entered the earth\'s atmosphere it would burn up, but how much of a meteor the size of a football field going to be when it reaches earth.

Oh yea, and Clowd, could you answer SonyFan\'s question as well.

[Titan]

Originally posted by Clowd
What causes the perfect body to start to die?  Sin

As for the bodys arteries clogging,  true,  the body imperfect because of sin,  that is why some are born blind, etc.


Bossieman I want you to believe God created life on earth and the universe.

Your cloning is simply that, cloning.  You cant create a cell by yourself.  You cant create a human by yourself.  I would like to see you take materials from the earth and make a cell.  

Your not \'creating\' life.

EDIT:  If you could create life,  why cant you bring people back from the dead?  Just fix the hole in the lungs and they should be right back on their feet?  No.

So what your saying is that if I were to sin like there\'s no tomorrow, I will die in a year? If someone didn\'t sin, they live forever? That doesn\'t make sense. My grandfather was very religious. He sined very minimally. So your saying when he died in his 70s, he sinned? That is not remotely true.

When people are dead, they\'re brains are dead. The reason we can\'t bring them back from the dead is first their brains are decomposed and their nerves and everything are dead. Since the nerves are dead, the brain is gone forever since your brain is a big ball of nerves.

When you clone someone, you are creating something. You are creating a life. When you have sex and your girlfriend gets pregnant, life is created. We create life all the time.

God didn\'t create the earth, the galaxies and all of the other planets and star systems. How could anything do that in 7 days? It\'s impossible. When the Big Bang happened billions of years ago, it took billions and billions of years to form a star and planets orbiting around it. If life is found on Mars or another planet, your going to say that God went to that planet and created life? What about methane and water and the atmosphere on other planets. Your going to say that God went there and created those things?

All a sin really is is when a person does something wrong and the person knows it. God doesn\'t punish you because you sin. You get obsolved. God is very forgiving (oh, by the way, I\'m catholic and go to church almost every Sunday). He always forgives the person for the wrong things they\'ve done. What the hell do you think confession is for? Absolving your sins.

Clowd, you will never get Bossie to believe in God. He is a scientist. He knows what he\'s talking about.

[Titan]

Originally posted by Videoholic
SO like when the meteor entered the earth\'s atmosphere it would burn up, but how much of a meteor the size of a football field going to be when it reaches earth.

It would be quite small. It wouldn\'t do any major damage except a crater in the Earth. During World War 1 or 2 (I don\'t remember), a big meteor hit the earth in like Russia or something around there. Left a big crater and we didn\'t even know about it until after the war. Unless the meteor hit a city (bye bye people), it wouldn\'t have too much damage. If it hit a city, the death toll would be friggin high. The whole city would be a huge crater.

I have given facts that creation exists.  The giraffe, and wood pecker are facts,  the left hand right hand are facts, ill get more in a bit..  But ill say it again,  creation is also just looking outside and saying,  this just couldnt come by chance.  

Polite pet

Its nothing new.  Your post just proved my point.  It mutates,  but its still AIDs.  Evolution states everything came from a fish.  Trying to compare an aids virus that mutated to a fish changing into a land reptile is not aplicable.

Sonyfan

Some scrolls are left of the original bible,  and most of the transalations say basically the same thing.  I can see why your faith is wavering,  lots of churches are saying total falsehoods,  even changing bible scriptures to meet what they teach.  God will intervene soon.

You are also right in that religion has been the cause of all blood spilt on the earth.  

Titan

God didnt create the universe in 7 days.  You cant take 7 days literally.  Remember a day to God is different then a day to a human.  Example,  you could say :  in my grand father\'s day,  or in the day of the atari.  It doesnt matter how much you sin.  You were born with sin.  If you were born and kept in a small room and never did anything bad,  you would still grow old and die.  How long you live is really depened on your lifestyle

Samwise

The asteroid theory is slowly going down the toilet,  the theory of a flood is taking its place.  Believe it or not.

Bossieman

You wanted the scriptures from the bible and here they are

The earth hangs upon nothing - Job 26:7

The earth is a circle -  Isaiah 40:22

So far you have been the only one who has given scientific facts that are suppose to support evolution.  You also seem reasonable to discuss facts rather then immediatly dismiss them.



The father of evolution agrees there are holes in his theory,  so why cant everyone?

EDIT:  Titan I wont be able to change bossimans mind because hes a scientist?  That may be the one reason why I may be able to.  You on the other hand seem to be stuck on what you learnt in high school text books.  You dont go out and research things.

Sin is our punishment for letting things get out of hand. I mean, we kept building bigger and BIGGER machina! Huge machina weapons and cities built over the water. Sin appeared during the wars we caused. Sin will go away once we atone for our sins!


Er, never mind.

Originally posted by Tom G
Sin is our punishment for letting things get out of hand. I mean, we kept building bigger and BIGGER machina! Huge machina weapons and cities built over the water. Sin appeared during the wars we caused. Sin will go away once we atone for our sins!


Er, never mind.

Damn..I wanted to be the one that posted that but couldnt remember the words..so I started a new game of FF to find out..lol

Whos running now?

Whaddya mean? Were bringing INTENTIONAL humor to an otherwise boring thread.

C\'mon, if you\'re ever in doubt about religion, play Xenogears. It\'ll explain how god and the world came to be, and the real reason religion was created in the first place.

Alpha Weltall! Omega Weltall! Hoo ah! What more do ya need?

Originally posted by Clowd

The father of evolution agrees there are holes in his theory,  so why cant everyone?

There are holes in both theories..why cant YOU accept that? More so can be proven through science vs. the belief that things were created *poof* just like that.

*poof* I just farted...

Originally posted by luckee


There are holes in both theories..why cant YOU accept that? More so can be proven through science vs. the belief that things were created *poof* just like that.

Holes in creation?  What are these holes.  I want to know.

Things were created with poof?  Do you like making fun of yourself?  Evolution states the universe *poofed* out of nowhere.

Alright, now I\'m confused. So God farted and we were born?

Originally posted by Tom G
Alright, now I\'m confused. So God farted and we were born?

Na,  according to you something,  or rather nothing, exploded and made the universe.

Exploded, farted, samething. That means that both creationism and evolution begin with gas. Hey, now we can all be friends!

**lifts leg and farts**

Look Clowd, I created man!

Originally posted by Clowd


Holes in creation?  What are these holes.  I want to know.

 

God itself...cannot be touched..seen, heard..smelled, or felt. The fact that people blame and praise something that had NO control over their fortune/mis-fortune.

The fact that proof is relied upon a book that man has written which is very sketchy IMO. IE..the bible. I still would like to know why the need for so many different versions of it. No way in the world the bible could stay remotely accurate after all of the translations and thousands of years.