Matrix Revolutions

Originally posted by Ryu
That\'s a fair assessment to a degree, but I won\'t crap in the face of classical cinema because it has worked for so many years and created the best films of any time.

If I were to disagree with the popular opinion that a movie is a "classic" would I lose any credibility?  Afterall, doesn\'t my opinion weigh as much as yours or anyone elses?

My disagreement would be based on whether I enjoyed the film or not, correct?  If it so happens I am not entertained by said "classic" film then my opposition is valid when I say it\'s not good or great.  

The opinion is entirely mine to have, right?  When is it not mine?

everyone is entitles to thier opinion

but calling matrix the best film ever, or the best trilogy is ludacris and will be attacked

the first matrix was a good film, a phenominal special effects expo, and the other two are......:snore:

Everyone I\'ve talked to has been disapointed by the movie.  Nobody has said it was bad, but it didn\'t their meet expectations.  Eh, I\'ll probably rent it sometime.  No rush to see this one.

If I were to disagree with the popular opinion that a movie is a "classic" would I lose any credibility? Afterall, doesn\'t my opinion weigh as much as yours or anyone elses?

My disagreement would be based on whether I enjoyed the film or not, correct? If it so happens I am not entertained by said "classic" film then my opposition is valid when I say it\'s not good or great.

The opinion is entirely mine to have, right? When is it not mine?

I don\'t get why you\'re being all huffy puffy about having an opinion.  I never once said anything about not having one or someone\'s being invalid, I simply gave my views on the film and was told by someone else that I didn\'t understand it simply because the ideas presented, which I didn\'t like, were somehow supposed to be excused as a part of the plot.  That shouldn\'t happen and I don\'t like the idea that elements should be forgiven because it was intended.  If I went out and made a really terrible movie and everyone hated it, arguing that everyone should have loved it because it was intentionally terrible makes absolutely no sense at all.  Simply because I have that point of view, and express it, doesn\'t make your opinion any less valid.  

I was dissapointed in it, you loved it, and that\'s great, but what\'s your real point?  Have I somehow infringed on your freedom of speech and expression?  Point out where I did, please, because I\'m at a lost for what you\'re really trying to get at.

One has to understand that in order for a film to be worthwhile and emotional...

That\'s where the Matrix fails as a film.

If a film is great, it\'s great from beginning to end and it creates an emotional bond with the characters and the viewers, but because this film never once succeeded in doing that, it was a dissapointing failure.

How unfortunate.

I don\'t need to understand this^

My opinion isn\'t valid to a certain degree. I can discern for myself what I find enthralling as can anyone else in this forum.

That\'s great that you can, but that was my opinion and there are many that agree with it, including some on this forum and many who don\'t.  It was targeted at no one single person and whether you agree with it or not isn\'t relevant as it doesn\'t once infringe on your opinion of the subject material or movies in general.  Discern all you want about what\'s good and what\'s not, it\'s all fine with me, but that doesn\'t change my opinion on what I think really captures and enthrals an audience.

You think I would speak for you?  I don\'t even know your language.  

I think the plot and philosophical meanings were good, some of the lines were cheesey.  And i didnt think the acting was good at all.

I think you guys really get off on this stuff or just have extremely boring lives where the only fufilment you gain is from bitching at eachother, just trying to see how many profound and "good" posts you can get in before some mod gets tired of it and closes the thread.

So long as you acknowledge the posts are both "profound" and "good," that\'s reason enough for me to go on posting in these threads.  

Then why did you bother to type that one must understand.  Who were you refering to?

Then how do I have a fair assessment as to understanding having an opinion when it comes to movies?

but calling matrix the best film ever, or the best trilogy is ludacris and will be attacked

Who knows best?

Ugg, the ending to this movie sickens me.  How can you possibly expect people to like a movie they can\'t even understand?  This movie was a complete dissapointment, the first Matrix will be the only salvation of this trilogy.

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calling matrix best film ever is retarded, no matter what way you look at it

Then how do I have a fair assessment as to understanding having an opinion when it comes to movies?

fair1    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (fâr)

Having or exhibiting a disposition that is free of favoritism or bias; impartial: a fair mediator.
Just to all parties; equitable: a compromise that is fair to both factions.

You would not agree with that definition of your statement?  It makes sense to me.

Then why did you bother to type that one must understand.

Still quibbling over words?  That\'s fine.  I changed it.  Let me know what you think.  Sounds fair to me.  

Ugg, the ending to this movie sickens me. How can you possibly expect people to like a movie they can\'t even understand? This movie was a complete dissapointment, the first Matrix will be the only salvation of this trilogy.

What did you miss?  I can try and help explain it as best as I can.  However, what you didn\'t understand is the best place to start really.

sufficient but not ample : ADEQUATE a fair understanding of the work

^this is what I interpreted it as.  My bad and my apology to you.

No apology is necessary.  Everything is cool.

get a frickin room, you two

/vomit