Bush is trying to ban gay marriages nation-wide.... wow.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Anyway, sort of OT on the subject... Our founding fathers meant for the US Constitution to be ammended/examined/updated every 20-50 years as they knew that the future would make certain ammendments obsolete and there would be a need to create new ammendments.  For example - The 2nd and 3rd Ammendments are outdated and should be removed IMO.  We no longer need a standing "militia" - we have our armed services.  Back when this was written the US had no standing army.

Even more off topic.

Have you ever heard of the State Defense Forces(not many people have)? They are supposed to be Americas very last line of Defense. They are (state) government sanctioned militias and they respond to the authority of the state\'s governor. Not all states support them though.

I just thought it was interesting that some states have their own armies.

Yes Supreme Court Justices can be impeached.  It has never happened though.

Originally posted by Phil
The Supreme court may have the last say on things, but they express the view of the president and past presidents.  Who do you think put them there.  Plus they have to be approved by congress.  It\'s not like any joe schmoe can waltz in there and say things are unconstitutional.

Somewhat true... more recently supreme court and appeals judges tend to have their own agenda.  The California Supreme Court is notorious.

I have said it once ...and i\'ll say it again.

Didn\'t think you had any rights or freedom left ....

Bush & co have been Pissing on your bill of rights the day he bought his way into power.

What ever happend to the Land of the Free ?

or was that sold as back-handers to Bush\'s Rich firends... who bought him the election ?

I wouldn\'t say Bush bought the election as much as our messed up system handed it to him.

Still the end result was it turned democracy into a sham.

lets hope that in 244 days it won\'t be the same again.

[GmanJoe]

I hope Bush wins. Democrats are weak and scared and pander to weaklings.

Originally posted by ooseven
I have said it once ...and i\'ll say it again.



What ever happend to the Land of the Free ?

or was that sold as back-handers to Bush\'s Rich firends... who bought him the election ?

Every politician has money - look at John Kerry who is married to the Heinz (ketchup) heiress.  He is a little wanna be Kennedy clone anyway.  

If you really want to know what has screwed this country up it is the political correct zealots who will sue over anything they don\'t agree with (religion, race, gender, sexuality, etc.) yet turn a blind eye when its directed towards white males - a good case in point is the incident that recently happened concerning Democratic Congressperson Corrine Brown who called the Bush Administration "racist white men."

U.S. Rep. Corrine Brown verbally attacked a top Bush administration official during a briefing on the Haiti crisis Wednesday, calling the President\'s policy on the beleaguered nation "racist" and his representatives "a bunch of white men."

By the way, the Bush official she attacked was Assistant Secretary of State Roger Noriega, a Mexican-American. When Noriega took offense to Brown\'s calling him a racist white man, she responded with "you all look alike to me".

I believe Trent Lott (Republican Senator - former Senate majority leader) made a slightly less offensive statement and was crucified for it.  Funny how this incident made waves and this woman gets 2 days of press and its already forgotten.  This type of crap is what is wrong with our country.

Here is a quote from House Rep Henry Bonilla (R) a founding member of the Congressional Hispanic Congress.

"If a Republican had made such derogatory, insulting and discriminatory remarks there would be a firestorm of outrage. The current silence is deafening," Bonilla, R-Texas, said. "If we truly advocate zero tolerance for racism, then we must insist the statement be addressed."

[GmanJoe]

Factoid :The Media panders to women and liberals.

Originally posted by ooseven
Still the end result was it turned democracy into a sham.

lets hope that in 244 days it won\'t be the same again.

No it didn\'t Bush won the election - he won the electoral votes so how can you call it a sham?  Our system is not set up on simple majority for the whole country - it is set up for simple majority for each state.  Each state in turn has a different number of delegates and Bush won the most delegates.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
No it didn\'t Bush won the election - he won the electoral votes so how can you call it a sham?  Our system is not set up on simple majority for the whole country - it is set up for simple majority for each state.  Each state in turn has a different number of delegates and Bush won the most delegates.

So between Bush and Gore , the man with the least number of votes won.


Ah ... its nice to see that Democracy is DEAD in the US like it is over here.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
If you really want to know what has screwed this country up it is the political correct zealots who will sue over anything they don\'t agree with (religion, race, gender, sexuality, etc.) yet turn a blind eye when its directed towards white males.

Do you really believe that is what screwed the country up? While I agree there is a double standard(on both sides of the political spectrum) on all of the issues you mentioned, I would have to say that the government\'s pandering to the highest bidder is what has screwed up the country.

Originally posted by ooseven
So between Bush and Gore , the man with the least number of votes won.


Ah ... its nice to see that Democracy is DEAD in the US like it is over here.

When you understand what I just said in my previous post come back and discuss it.  IT IS NOT A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF VOTES FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.  Come on ooseven even you can understand this.  It never has been that way - the man with the most electoral votes won and that is how it is set up here in the US.  I know you live in the UK, but don\'t try and interpret something you don\'t understand.

Originally posted by Black Samurai
Do you really believe that is what screwed the country up? While I agree there is a double standard(on both sides of the political spectrum) on all of the issues you mentioned, I would have to say that the government\'s pandering to the highest bidder is what has screwed up the country.

I really believe this country has gone to hell due to what I said before AND the continued attack on the moral foundation that has guided this country since its founding - prime example gay marriages.  Another example is what they are teaching in schools today - it is practically revisionist history.  It seems that in the age we live in everyone - from your average civil servant to Supreme Court Judges have their own personal agendas and are carrying them out.  Look at California - Schwarzawimp has turned out to be a weak politician and "panderer" because he can\'t even stand up to enforce the laws in his own state due to his fear he won\'t be reelected.  Being a Republican I can say I hope he isn\'t reelected.  

The government and politicians have always pandered to the one with the most money that is nothing new.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
I really believe this country has gone to hell due to what I said before AND the continued attack on the moral foundation that has guided this country since its founding - prime example gay marriages.  Another example is what they are teaching in schools today - it is practically revisionist history.  It seems that in the age we live in everyone - from your average civil servant to Supreme Court Judges have their own personal agendas and are carrying them out.  Look at California - Schwarzawimp has turned out to be a weak politician and "panderer" because he can\'t even stand up to enforce the laws in his own state due to his fear he won\'t be reelected.  Being a Republican I can say I hope he isn\'t reelected.  

The government and politicians have always pandered to the one with the most money that is nothing new.

Are you saying that the country is becoming too liberal? Even if that were true(I think its arguable) why would that screw up the country? There are countries that are WAY more liberal than we will ever be and they don\'t have half the problems we do.