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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2004, 09:49:42 PM »
I like to think Dare Devil never existed. :(
Who is this anamoly we call Jumpman? How is he able to do what he does and still survive after years of torment? It seems he feeds on the hate, growing with an intense passion to put unassuming members in their place.

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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2004, 09:49:51 PM »
OK, some clarification.

Venom is a villain who is indeed far down the line, but there have been many liberties taken with the series thus far.  They did away with the whole Gwen Stacy arc and that was quite possibly one of the most defining moments in Spider-Man\'s illustrious superhero career.  If they can do away with Gwen, then I predict Venom will be in the fourth film.  There\'s a rumor going around that Raimi would like to film 3 and 4 back to back (EG: LOTR, Matrix 2 and 3), but the contract goes that Maguire, Dunst, Franco, and Raimi are only signed on for three movies and then quitting afterwards.  The Spider-Man movies are however contracted for 7 installments no matter the cast or director.

Spider-Man 3 will be about Green Goblin 2 (Hob Goblin comes around far later) and he does nothing but go after Peter and his family.  From my experience, an audience would absolutely hate that as that was what part one was all about basically.  part 3 will probably do a double villain film with Green Goblin 2 and someone as yet unnamed.  I wouldn\'t be surprised if they tossed the Rhino in there as a double threat -- have him get away, and do away with him in part 4 which is where I think the whole black spider and venom arc will come into play.

Venom is from either the Moon or from Mars -- I can\'t remember which in the shape of some black rock or some type of goo that comes back with John Jameson (J. Jonah Jameson\'s son -- the astronaut who was introduced in this film) and somehow finds its way to Peter who wears it just like his regular Spider-Man suit and it starts to take control of him and up the violence considerably which is where the Rhino takes a serious pounding and will go off the screen.  After finally seeing himself in this situation, Peter ditches the suit -- or the suit gets away and feels seriously rejected and absolute hates Peter -- and finds somebody with just about as much hate for Peter in the form of Eddie Brock who was introduced by name only in the first film.  When Jameson offers a cash reward for pictures of Spider-Man, just before hand, one of his workers says "Eddie\'s been on it for weeks and can barely get a glimpse of this guy" and Eddie hates Parker as he\'s the one who always brings in these astonishing shots that Eddie can never land of the wall crawler.  Once the suit and Eddie merge, the two form Venom and have an all out fight with Parker that would be totaly awesome on screen.

It\'s also important to note that the sonic weapon that can defeat Venom is created by Dr. Connors (also introduced in this film as the one armed professor) and it\'s totaly possible that he\'ll be the second villain in the third film in the form of the Lizard.  I\'m just trying to throw options out there.  Only the Rhino could take the pounding Peter puts on when he dawns the Black Spider outfit.
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« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2004, 11:13:21 PM »
Rami has stated time and time again he will never do Venom or Carnage - so do not expect that to happen in Spider-Man 3 . The most logical explantions would be Hob Goblin or The Lizard.  The idea of just re-using the Green Goblin and making it \'Green Goblin 2\' would not work for the film, like it does for other media formats.

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« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2004, 11:53:56 PM »
^ I agree..  Green goblin, been there done that...  Hob Goblin is another story.
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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2004, 05:43:33 AM »
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Rami has stated time and time again he will never do Venom or Carnage - so do not expect that to happen in Spider-Man 3 .


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« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2004, 07:10:09 AM »
Posted by RYU- Venom is from either the Moon or from Mars -- I can\'t remember which in the shape of some black rock or some type of goo that comes back with John Jameson (J. Jonah Jameson\'s son -- the astronaut who was introduced in this film) and somehow finds its way to Peter who wears it just like his regular Spider-Man suit and it starts to take control of him and up the violence considerably..

Just so you people know I\'m the resident spiderman expert here.... I have a huge collection that I have collected since I was 10 still in plastic bages and I read them all once before I place them in the bags I still collect today and have well over 3000 comic books that are just Spiderman.. This is what makes me a Nerd and Computers make me a geek anyway...

In the Secret-Wars Spider-Man was on some planet. Along with other super heroes, such as Captain America, and super villains, including Dr. Doom, Spidey was brought to the planet by the Beyonder. The Beyonder wanted heroes and villains to fight a war. Spiderman fought many battles and his costume was left in shred he found a machine that could replace ruined clothing. Spiderman triggered the clothing machine and a round black object sprang from it and slithered around spiderman\'s body.

After defeating the villains and escaping the Beyonder, spidey returned to Earth, and took his alien costume with him. To make a long story short Dr Richards from the Fantastic four found out the costume was actually a simbiot and was trying to bond with spidrman forever and they blasted the costume off of him with sound. The BlackCat thought that spidey looked sexier in the black and she made him one and he wore both on and off for a lot of books.

I havent seen two yet and therefore havent read any spoilers but I will see it this weekend. If doc oc is the only villian in here number three will defianlty have the kingpin spiderman and him have a long history and everyone loves the mafia sooo it only makes since to me. also they will want to carry on the green goblin story wich harry will become..

Lets face it will this is Spiderman they have just barely kept to the orginol ( ie: the comic book spiderman could not shoot webs out of his wrists) and do not have time to carry out all of the villians that us true spiderman junkies know so I think the will go hollywood and jumo ahead and bring someone like the shocker in.
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« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2004, 08:40:28 AM »
I haven\'t seen 2 yet so don\'t crucify me if this is completely off. I heard that Oswald\'s (Green Goblin) son was going to kind of reincarnate the Green Goblin. He could of died in 2 and I just don\'t know it though so, if he did indeed die just let me know.

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« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2004, 08:46:09 AM »
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« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2004, 09:32:08 AM »
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Just so you people know I\'m the resident spiderman expert here.... I have a huge collection that I have collected since I was 10 still in plastic bages and I read them all once before I place them in the bags I still collect today and have well over 3000 comic books that are just Spiderman.. This is what makes me a Nerd and Computers make me a geek anyway...


That\'s good, and the explanation you gave is fine for comics, but that would never work on screen which is why I went off the cartoon storyline.  They could always go the Ultimate route which is where the symbiont was genetically by Peter\'s and Eddie\'s fathers in a lab as a cure for cancer as it could regenerate cells and the like but when it attached itself to a host, the goo became self aware and developed a mind of its own which incorporate some really evil tendencies and later attached itself to Eddie in the end.  That\'s a story line that works very well for the screen in my opinion.
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« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2004, 09:53:58 AM »
didnt spider man mutate at some point of time (in the cartoon)  I recall the dude from X men (the dude that has the same powers as Rogue almost) hunting spiderman down (as the mutated version) and turning him back normal.  I just remember watching the episode where peter parker slept for like 3 days and started losing his abilities till he finally just turned into a spider monster.

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« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2004, 11:24:18 AM »
Spiderman 2\'s hint at future villains.

Perhaps a triple threat for the third, nice:)

I don\'t remember wolf-man from the cartoon...

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« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2004, 11:46:04 AM »
Yea the Man-Wolf character is definitely a new one.

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« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2004, 04:35:14 PM »
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Done that, broken that........

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« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2004, 06:10:05 PM »
That and the water gun leaks.
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« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2004, 08:20:54 PM »
they need to go back to making toys out of jagged sheet metal and lead paint
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