Spider-Man 2: Spoilers Abound

Originally posted by Ryu
Not true.  The same people who cheer during a sporting event also cheer if they tape it and watch it at home so long as the events of the game have not been disclosed to them.  It\'s exactly the same for a movie.  It may not be live, but it\'s exciting to see what happens nevertheless considering it\'s a total mystery to you.

Thus my statement:

"The outcome affects other events in the real world."

A sporting event is a real world event.  A fictional movie is not.

Why cheer either....

I only cheer when  it matters.  IE AT a sporting event, concert, play, etc.  If the actual people you are applauding can hear you, it\'s worth it.  Otherwise... I mean really.  Nobody (important ) can hear you clapping at your TV.  The workers in the theatre don\'t care if you applaude a movie... it\'s just a wierd thing to do.

I always feel kinda sorry for the handfull of people that try to start applause at the end of a movie when it just peters out.

I thought it was just a tiny bit overrated, but certainly better then the first. I thought they could have done more with Doc\'s character, but it was still pretty good.

Would someone mind explaining the story of Hob Goblin? Im quite confused about that.

Actually they are different. If you cheer while watching a sporting event on TV, you are acknowledging a real, live event that\'s happening somewhere at that very moment. The outcome affects other events in the real world.

If you applaud DURING a typical movie, you are reacting to a fictional event written 2 years ago, perfomed 12 months ago, edited together 4 months ago, and played back at thousands of auditoriums simultaneously all across the country. Kind of pointless if you ask me, but I know people are stupid, so there\'s no avoiding it.

How about crying?  How about feeling any emotional attachment what so ever for the characters being portrayed.  If those people who clapped felt that good about it then good for them.  Personally, the movie put a big grin on my face all the way out to my car.  

Was that stupid of me?:rolleyes:

If you took that "what does it matter" approach to everything you did, I\'m sure you\'d find a lot of things that you do throughout your life to be just as equally pointless.  I digress though, if something during the movie excites me and makes me want to cheer in some way be it clapping or yelling, I will do just that.  I\'ll be damned if I\'m going to be a total stone face for 2 hours simply because it doesn\'t matter as the people who made the film can\'t hear me.  Either way, you being stone faced and me being excited if something awesome happens, neither will change the fate of the universe, but I know I\'d rather be with a crowd who is into the movie and enjoying it and expressing their enjoyment then a crowd who sits there like they\'re attending a funeral.  Just my opinion of course.

Perhaps I show my enjoyment without making noise that might disturb others in a theatre....?   Lots of movies go from a \'action - cheery part\' to a one liner from the hero or badguy... which is never upto the volume of the rest.  
For me, I always think people who get so into a movie that they can\'t control their physical outbursts are kinda wierd... and in the minority for movies I go to (when they aren\'t full of kids).  Last think I want when I go to a theatre is to be within 2 seats of any loudmouth or talker.

Originally posted by FatalXception
Perhaps I show my enjoyment without making noise that might disturb others in a theatre....?    

This is what I\'m saying.

Applauding = Voluntary response that is also quite loud and disturbs others in the theater

Talking to your friend or to the screen = Voluntary response that is noticable and disturbs others in the theater

Crying = Involuntary response that is usually unnoticable to others in the theater

So yes... I am saying that if you can\'t control your hands from clapping and your mouth from yapping, then you ARE stupid.  Applauding at the end of the movie during the credit roll is fine with me, but please don\'t do it DURING the movie.

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Brief thoughts on the film:

Rami needs to drop Bruce Campell . He does not need a cameo in every film. He is a weak actor who does nothing but bring every scene he is in down by two notches.

Rami really ruined a perfect chance with Doc Oct. wakin\' up. Instead, he went back to his \'Evil Dead\' film making and it was really poor.

With that said , I loved the rest of the film. I did think the whole idea of the AI controlling Doc Oct was cheap and it would of been more effective if he would of just suffered some sort of brain damage... But, overall it was a great movie, hell I even got teary eyed when MJ said "go get\'em , Tiger".

Great movie, but I wouldn\'t mind if Rami was dropped for the third or if he would at least move on  and get rid of annoying things like Campell (who should be shot in the head, by the way).

Oh and I hated the first one.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Rami really ruined a perfect chance with Doc Oct. wakin\' up. Instead, he went back to his \'Evil Dead\' film making and it was really poor.

I have no idea what you meant by this.

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Originally posted by Coredweller
I have no idea what you meant by this.

It was an exact copy of the original EviL ead tree rape scene and numerous others.

So who exactly in the city does not know Peter Parker is Spiderman. Friggin ridiculous.

Originally posted by Cyrus
Posted by RYU- Venom is from either the Moon or from Mars -- I can\'t remember which in the shape of some black rock or some type of goo that comes back with John Jameson (J. Jonah Jameson\'s son -- the astronaut who was introduced in this film) and somehow finds its way to Peter who wears it just like his regular Spider-Man suit and it starts to take control of him and up the violence considerably..

Just so you people know I\'m the resident spiderman expert here.... I have a huge collection that I have collected since I was 10 still in plastic bages and I read them all once before I place them in the bags I still collect today and have well over 3000 comic books that are just Spiderman.. This is what makes me a Nerd and Computers make me a geek anyway...

In the Secret-Wars Spider-Man was on some planet. Along with other super heroes, such as Captain America, and super villains, including Dr. Doom, Spidey was brought to the planet by the Beyonder. The Beyonder wanted heroes and villains to fight a war. Spiderman fought many battles and his costume was left in shred he found a machine that could replace ruined clothing. Spiderman triggered the clothing machine and a round black object sprang from it and slithered around spiderman\'s body.

After defeating the villains and escaping the Beyonder, spidey returned to Earth, and took his alien costume with him. To make a long story short Dr Richards from the Fantastic four found out the costume was actually a simbiot and was trying to bond with spidrman forever and they blasted the costume off of him with sound. The BlackCat thought that spidey looked sexier in the black and she made him one and he wore both on and off for a lot of books.

I havent seen two yet and therefore havent read any spoilers but I will see it this weekend. If doc oc is the only villian in here number three will defianlty have the kingpin spiderman and him have a long history and everyone loves the mafia sooo it only makes since to me. also they will want to carry on the green goblin story wich harry will become..

Lets face it will this is Spiderman they have just barely kept to the orginol ( ie: the comic book spiderman could not shoot webs out of his wrists) and do not have time to carry out all of the villians that us true spiderman junkies know so I think the will go hollywood and jumo ahead and bring someone like the shocker in.

DONT TELL ME YOU VE GOT THE DUEL BETWEEN SPIDER MAN AND WOLVERINE :eek:

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Oh and for the notion that Kingpin will be a villian in the third... WRONG

Little fact for you, from Imdb.com.

Although the characters Daredevil and Spider-Man coexist in the comics, it was decided that all obvious references to the latter character had to be removed since the licenses were given to separate film companies. This includes the decision that The Kingpin, a Spider-Man enemy, would never appear in the Spider-Man film franchise and the character Ben Urich, a reporter who is a colleague and occasional professional partner of Peter Parker in the comics, would not work for the Daily Bugle. Michael Clarke Duncan would nonetheless reprise the role of Kingpin for the animated "Spider-Man" (2003) series.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
It was an exact copy of the original EviL ead tree rape scene and numerous others.

Do you mean the scene when Doc Ock is in the hospital, and the surgeons are preparing to remove the tentacles?  I think that\'s quite a stretch.  Spiderman 2 was not written by Raimi, only directed by him.  It\'s true that Raimi does occasionally bring his characteristic visual style to this film, but to say it\'s an exact copy is an extreme exaggeration.

BTW Raimi has developed a much more conservative and laid back style with these Spiderman movies and his other mass market films like "A Simple Plan."  No more crash zooms and hand held high speed cameras like in the Evil Dead movies and The Quick and the Dead.  I wish he would let his freak flag fly a little more.

So yes... I am saying that if you can\'t control your hands from clapping and your mouth from yapping, then you ARE stupid.

I don\'t talk during the film, but if I clap and others join me, then so be it.  If that makes me stupid, then allow me to respond in kind to you stone faced people who are incapable of expressing joy when watching a film:

F*ck you.