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Offline Avatarr
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« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2005, 08:17:13 PM »
I will stab you
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« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2005, 02:42:28 AM »
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fuck you avy but you are telling the truth. Nobody can argue that not even MM.


oh yeah, how many games is microsoft making in house again?
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« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2005, 03:14:32 AM »
irrelevant
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« Reply #48 on: October 20, 2005, 04:50:11 AM »
lol, that\'s the point that was brought to the table, and was claimed as unarguable
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« Reply #49 on: October 20, 2005, 05:45:06 AM »
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« Reply #50 on: October 20, 2005, 11:18:24 AM »
Perhaps I misread the (original) quote.. but is this not perhaps talking about the cost to make the dev tools that sony provides?  Or are they talking about an engine (which could be re-used or licenced later)?  If they mean the developer tools used to create games, then Sony provides some, and as the rest are created, they get sold/licenced around as well, letting in smaller fish in a little while.  

I\'m thinking this is like the PS2 problem.. when it came out it was \'too complex\' and nobody could get the full potential out of the system, but with time, tools were created that made games more and more powerful, and easier to write,and these tools ended up in more and more hands...  If creating these tools is a ONE TIME investment of 17 mil (estimate), then over the lifespan of decent sized developer, say making 10 games in 4 years, that would work out to a lot less per game...  They don\'t have to reinvent their tools everytime they start a new title.
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« Reply #51 on: October 20, 2005, 01:57:13 PM »
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PS3Today.com and PS3Focus.com have reported a recent Japanese article about PS3 developer support, which has an insider source claiming that the initial investment for PS3 software development it at least ¥2 billion (U$S 17.6 million), and that figure does not include the actual development costs associated directly with the title.

This initial investment, according to this insider source, is "nothing but a nightmare for many Japanese software development companies."


The article also reveals that the prevailing rumor in Japanese game development circles is that many companies may end up developing for the Xbox 360, which will lower R&D costs since the system shares many similarities with Windows game development, allowing developers to release a single title on both platforms.


I don\'t like running in the dark and I really have absolutley no idea. But one can speculate that the cost includes dev kits, licensing fees, development of low level drivers to work with high level API\'s. EEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTCCCCCCCCC. Sony should really be responsible for doing the last one rather than developers themselves. Certainly Microsoft has taken that responsibility for the Xbox and Xbox360.
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« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2005, 02:25:02 PM »
Anyone checked my link? :p
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« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2005, 02:43:29 PM »
I\'m glad you could find a non-bias source there, Uni.:rolleyes:

Get me something from a third party developer saying how easy it is to make a Playstation 3 game compared to an Xbox 360 game.
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« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2005, 04:59:27 PM »
Why even debate it everyone should know that it is going to be easier to build games for xbox360 than ps3. Just like xbox and ps2. With the cost being so high this time around sony could have really screwed themselves.

They are going the route nintendo did buying screwing developers.
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« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2005, 11:46:03 PM »
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Why even debate it everyone should know that it is going to be easier to build games for xbox360 than ps3. Just like xbox and ps2. With the cost being so high this time around sony could have really screwed themselves.
Why h3ll0 thar Mr. "Bill Gates sucks my wang". I don\'t see why Xbox360 should be sooo much easier to develop for. Both consoles feature multiple cores - which some developers have said to be a pain in the ass to work with. Both have \'PC graphics cards\'. And it\'s not like MS bought off the shelf PC parts this time.

But again, why should we care. We\'ll get our games either way and they\'ll be good. Except those that suck.
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« Reply #56 on: October 21, 2005, 12:52:07 AM »
You\'ve gone soft Sammy. Just say DICK. It\'s easy. See? DICK.
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« Reply #57 on: October 21, 2005, 01:00:38 AM »
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You\'ve gone soft Sammy. Just say DICK. It\'s easy. See? DICK.
Wang is a funnier word. You cock gobbling piece of shit.
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« Reply #58 on: October 21, 2005, 01:01:58 AM »
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Wang is a funnier word. You cock gobbling piece of shit.


nice comeback, quite funny too
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« Reply #59 on: October 21, 2005, 01:27:27 AM »
: ( my anus is bleeding
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