DVD\'s are fine for this generation

[Evi]

My bad then. I do understand the points you\'re making. This is all VERY new. So all we can make, like you said, is educated guesses.

Ever hear of lossless compression? You should read up on it.

think lossless de-compression is easy?

DVD medium was a mistake for xbox 360, not for consoles coming out late 2006 with a 10 year projected life span.
HD-DVD would have 3million or so units in house and "slowly" improving every day

think lossless de-compression is easy?

why don\'t you tell me all about it.

think lossless de-compression is easy?

DVD medium was a mistake for xbox 360, not for consoles coming out late 2006 with a 10 year projected life span.
HD-DVD would have 3million or so units in house and "slowly" improving every day

that means the 360 would have been delayed until late this year.  That wouldn\'t work out very well for Microsofts strategy to get out first in order to gain a lead and momentum.  Also mind that Microsoft has no vested interest in the well being of either format.  Why should they have waited?

When the first multiple DVD game comes out, or the first developer says they can\'t achieve something due to the capacity, then I\'ll take you seriously.  As of right now you\'re speculating.

ask sega about having the "first console out" and "rushing to market"

MS is vested in HD-DVD, read tech news much?

need for more than one DVD?
oblivian?

ask sega about having the "first console out" and "rushing to market"

MS is vested in HD-DVD, read tech news much?

need for more than one DVD?
oblivian?

Should I also ask them about their bankruptcy while I\'m at it?

Microsoft will not hurt if HD-DVD goes down.

Oblivion is on one dvd as far as I know.  They utilized the technique of procedural synthesis that allowed them to make the game and achieve a final disc size not too much larger than the last Morrowind game.  You can read about it in the first post of this very thread!

Microsoft will hurt if Blu-ray goes up

i wonder why almost every dungeon in oblivion all look practically the same

Microsoft will hurt if Blu-ray goes up

i wonder why almost every dungeons in oblivion all look practically the same

how so?

sigh, need i explain the practice of business?

seeing as how Microsoft is not in the business of media formats (physical anyway), yes, you should go ahead and explain.

what\'s good for sony = bad for competitors

i know it\'s complex and tough to take in all at once.

what\'s good for sony = bad for competitors

i know it\'s complex and tough to take in all at once.

but it\'s not bad for Microsoft.  In fact, J Allard or one of the other higher ups in the Xbox division said they\'ll adopt whatever format wins out for their next system.

So Sony has the potential to make some money with blu-ray.  Good for them.  It\'s not as if Microsoft doesn\'t make money elsewhere.

how does blu-ray doing well financially impact Microsoft?

What you just said is the equivalent of saying that Vista doing well is bad for Sony.  That doesn\'t make any sense seeing as how Sony is not in the business of software.

[Titan]

Microsoft sank in a lot of money for HD-DVD.

Microsoft sank in a lot of money for HD-DVD.

o rly?  linkify.

I know they announced their support of the format (mosty due to the whole MCC ordeal).  If it goes down, Microsoft won\'t even flinch.

Their codec VC-1 is in both HD-DVD and Blu-ray if that\'s what you were getting at.

[Titan]

Partnership with Toshiba (developer of HD-DVD): http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Microsoft-Toshiba-HD-DVD-Alliance-Changes-Xbox-360-3902.shtml

Microsoft endorsing with Intel: http://news.com.com/Intel,+Microsoft+endorse+HD+DVD/2100-1041_3-5883337.html

From their website: https://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/sep05/09-26HDDVDPromotionGroupPR.mspx

If they are endorsing it and joining Toshiba, its assumed they are putting up some capital for development.

Shitty links though, I know but its 12:30, I\'m sick and tired and really don\'t feel like getting too involved in this stupid arguement.