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« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2006, 11:56:25 PM »
I\'m more interested in the fact that on the average, HD-DVD movie\'s are getting better reviews than Blu-Ray in the video catergory. Both launches sucked tho\'.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/hd.php

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« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2006, 12:29:59 AM »
"Terminator 2 debuts on the Blu-ray format as one of the premiere launch titles from Lionsgate Entertainment. The disc contains only the film\'s 137-minute theatrical cut, not the 154-minute Special Edition version that has been released innumerable times on the VHS, laserdisc, and DVD formats since 1993. Undoubtedly this is due to space constraints with the current state of the Blu-ray format."

what does the bolded part mean? the blu-ray discs suck right now and will get better?
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« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2006, 12:49:36 AM »
it means that Terminator 2 was released in single layered for the blu ray format.  It might get better if it re-release again in at least dual layer or more for more options...

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« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2006, 07:51:39 AM »
Interesting link site LiC, the reviewers bring up some interesting points about the movies/formats.  That said, looking back at their reviews and chat for a little while, it sure seems like they had their minds made up about which format they prefered before the HD releases hit the shelves.
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« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2006, 08:22:24 AM »
Sony is trying to market the ps3 as more than just a conosle to make up for the insane price. Yes I do believe at launch they will sell units. Overall I see 360 having a better holiday season than sony. There will be alot more  games out for the 360. The graphics on both console are on par. And if Microsoft wanted to lower the price of the 360 they couuld.

 Sony will end up realizing that they are going to have to take an even larger hit on the console to get them in peoples homes. The goal is to get the console in consumers homes not have them sitting on store shelves.

There really is no justification for a $600 console at this point in time. If I am going to pay $600 for console. It better be producing Toy Story type graphics.
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« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2006, 08:34:56 AM »
Quote from: QuDDus
Sony is trying to market the ps3 as more than just a conosle to make up for the insane price.


I agree and I kind of wished these companies would just stick to gaming. Even though the PS3 will play Blue Ray I\'d still have a stand-alone unit. I don\'t need my game machine to play movies etc.
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« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2006, 12:45:19 PM »
i\'m with you there, I got a PC to do everything... I want a console just to game on.

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« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2006, 01:20:37 PM »
Nintendo\'s games-centric mantra is catching on with Microsoft and Sony paid it a little lipservice at E3. We might see the entire industry shift back to software come next gen...
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« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2006, 01:35:36 PM »
^^^

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« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2006, 03:18:18 PM »
I was pissed about the price tag, but I will still buy a PS3 anyway.  Why?  PS1 and PS2 have both been good experiences for me, and history shows they will come through again.
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« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2006, 06:57:10 PM »
History also shows that the 3rd home console from each major company has been an unmigitated disaster for one reason or another.

Case in point, the Nintendo 64 and Sega Saturn... both considered low points in their respective console families.

Why is this? Something to do with cockiness, I\'d assume. Maybe bad luck. Sony is unstoppably cocky with the PS3, I know that.
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« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2006, 12:33:58 AM »
I\'ve just finished reading your "Is Sony in trouble" article, and I have to say, while many of your arguments were fairly spot-on, your predictions at the end contradicted everything you\'ve argued about. "PS3 might have a problem with Cell, PS3 will have a lot of work if it wants to sell Blu-Ray, PS3 is showing a slim launch window," just to say at the end "Oh, we think PS3 will be the best." Sure, it\'s easy to say, but I\'d like to counter-argue your article, if I may.

For starters, you\'ve talked about how $600 is "a deal" to the public considering what you get. But think about it. I already have a computer. I already have a DVD player. I already have videogame systems. And I already have a digital video recorder for my television shows. I paid $30 for my DVD player. It can\'t play videogames, record television, or wash my dishes, but it\'s a damn good DVD player, and that\'s what I paid for. I\'m going to want something that does what it does right, not something that does everything decently.

Secondly, the public is going to note that price point. Honestly, right now, do any of those games look like $660+ worth of fun? I\'ll say it now, I\'m buying a Wii. Why? Because to me the games look like $300+ worth of fun or more.

Third, since I\'m not paid to praise Sony, I\'ll say it like it is. I work in a videogame store. Not your big Gamestops, but a smaller store known as Game Crazy. Let\'s say on average I see 100 customers. Each day, about 45-55 rave about the Wii, how they\'re going to get one, how much fun it will be, etc. About 35-40 declare they\'re picking up a 360 as soon as the price drops, considering many games are beginning to come out at $40-$60. My remaining 5-10 say they\'ll pre-order a PS3 when they get the money. Last time I checked, 5-10% of the market isn\'t good, and my group, while primarily consisting of gamers, includes non-gamers and parents as well.

My point? If the PS3 succeeds at all, it\'ll be in last. Most people will go with the Wii60 combo, mainly for price point, and because as of right now, the game selection is looking more and more superior, from Oblivion and Zelda\'s Twilight Princess to Halo 3 and Super Smash Bros Brawl. My prediction is that it will be close between the Xbox 360 and the Nintendo Wii, with PlayStation 3 trailing along behind, trying to keep the cores in its cell running while claiming Blu-ray is the next big thing.

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« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2006, 12:40:46 AM »
It certainly seems that everyone involved in the article is way too close to the subject to discuss it objectively. The PS3 is going to tank. Not for lack of trying or lack of technical prowess, but because $600.00 is ridiculous.

Obviously the higher ups at Sony have lost touch with their base. I have all the modern systems since the SNES and the only one I actually had to (willingly) sleep on the sidewalk for was the PS2. So I am not a Sony hater/ Xbox fanboy. I consider myself a gamer first and foremost, no favorites. If it\'s good, I will play it. That being said, I consider myself to be on par with the majority of players and Sony can try to justify their actions with WiFi, online this, Blu-ray that -- but at the end of the day, $600 is $600. Only your fringe gamer (of which I used to consider myself one) is going to pay that.

No kid is going to turn down a 360 with Halo 3 and Gears of War for a PS3. They could care less about a Blu-ray. Adults, who have bills to pay and gas that\'s $3.00+ a gallon aren\'t going to blow their rent money on a PS3 when they can have a 360 with Halo 3 and Gears of War. The kids are too apathetic to the technology and the adults are too mature to blow that kind of cash when there are equal (and cheaper) alternatives.

At the end of next year you will see 360 = 50%, Wii = 30%, and PS3 = 20%. And that\'s being nice to Sony. This is a disaster waiting to happen, and unless they come out with alternative packages, and I don\'t mean 360 style packages of HDD or no HDD, they are going to meet an early death. They are going to have to offer significant package differences, like PS3 with Blue-ray = $600.00 and PS3 with DVD = $400.00. Otherwise I will not be buying one, and I know I am not alone.

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« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2006, 03:18:52 AM »
please stop mentioning gears of war like it\'s the 2nd coming of christ.  read some previews. they should change the name to gears of monotony
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« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2006, 04:42:12 AM »
The whole price issue is still fairly pointless.

Let\'s see factual history :

PAL PS2 : launch November 24th 2000 for € 522. That\'s  670 US Dollars.

It didn\'t even come with a 20Gb HD, let alone a 60Gb HD.

USA PS3 will come with that 20Gb HD for 500 USD

USA PS3 will come with a 60Gb HD + HDMI for 600 USD = € 467 ! That\'s LESS than PAL PS2 at launch !

The 20Gb HD PAL PS3 will be € 499. That\'s € 23 cheaper than PAL PS2 without HD.
The 60Gb HD + HDMI PS3 will be € 599. That\'s € 77 more than PAL PS2 without HD, without HDMI.

I think initial PS3 sales will rocket, then plummet... and gradually pick up steam again ; provided, if the PS3 games in development will impress.
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