thoughts on imus?....

clips for you to say I\'ve never been discriminated against just for the color of my skin is absurd.

[clips]

"The double standard is ridiculous. I\'m not claiming that I\'ve been made to sit in the back of a bus but neither have you."

^^^i agree with you here...and i\'ve continuosly(spel) stated that black folk are always going to get this argument from white folks sayin\' well ya\'ll say it and it\'s not a problem...in my very first post, i already gave heat to sharpton and jessie for basically protestin\' when it\'s a black/white thing, if they want to stop this thing or show they\'re serious?..protest in front of those record labels that promote this stuff. imus was wrong and he should be fired, that said tho, black folk need to take some heat for not having no respect and just bein plain backwards on this altogether...when you have video\'s that\'s basically havin\' rappers callin black women those names, and everybody is ok with it,...on top of that these videos are bein\' broadcast all over the world, then when a white person says something,..s**t hits the fan?...people get a certain impression of us when they see that stuff...and it\'s all negative.....once we get back some of that self-respect,THEN we can come at people like imus and others in full force, without bein\' hypocritical about it....



"Mocking how I talk or how I dress"

^^^your words not mine, and i hardly call that bein discrimnated against, now maybe some white folk might be discrimnated against if a company needs to meet it\'s quota for minorities, but let\'s be real, when you work for any major corporation, the black folk that make up any organization is barely 1 percent, and if it wasn\'t for quota\'s and affirmative action, those companies would hire even less minorities....i don\'t think any white person can tell me that they have been stopped by the cops for "driving while white"....black folk deal with that aspect of discrimnation on a daily basis and that is something i know white folk don\'t have to experience....

that reverse discrimination i mentioned against whites is something that i\'am against as well....hire that minority for his skills and not because you need to meet some "quota"....and if that other person has a stronger professional experience, and if he happens to be white,...hire him...

[Jumpman]

msnbc pulled the plug on the program, cbs wants him fired, the dumb mother fuckers win

I\'ve walked through black neighborhoods where I had to keep my head down and get the hell out of there. Kids up to no good, you know? But that\'s another thread.
 
And regardless, Imus calling those women nappy haired is like Imus calling me wavy haired.
 
Grounds for termination!
 
Give me a break.
 
I don\'t intend to open your eyes to the reality of the world beyond your neighborhood or anything, I\'m just defending Imus\'s right to say what he\'s said.
 
Even if I thought what he said was stupid, he had the right to say it.
 
And to be fair:
 
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nap·py 1 (nāp\'ē) Pronunciation Key adj. nap·pi·er, nap·pi·est [LIST=1] Having a nap; fuzzy. Kinky; frizzy.

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nappy (adj.)
"downy," 1499, from nap (n.). Meaning "fuzzy, kinky," used in colloquial or derogatory ref. to the hair of black people, is from 1950.
 
 
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nappy
adjective
1.	(of hair) in small tight curls

 
 
 
 
A few different source\'s definitions, one of which acknowledges that nappy can be considered derogatory.
 

 
By the way, the guy on the left here has nappy hair. Am I racist?
 

 
This dog has nappy hair. Am I racist now?
 

 
This gir---- uh oh! What have I done?!?!
 

that reverse discrimination

No such thing, it\'s just discrimination. As you can see, white people can be discriminated against, too. So can women. And Indians. And Asians. And teenagers. And the Irish. And gays. And Jewish people. And people who work in the mall food court.
 
Regardless, that\'s not what this is about.
 
You guys keep branching out to bigger issues because you know that this Imus thing is retarded.
 
Oh, retards can also be discriminated against.

"The double standard is ridiculous. I\'m not claiming that I\'ve been made to sit in the back of a bus but neither have you."

^^^i agree with you here...and i\'ve continuosly(spel) stated that black folk are always going to get this argument from white folks sayin\' well ya\'ll say it and it\'s not a problem...in my very first post, i already gave heat to sharpton and jessie for basically protestin\' when it\'s a black/white thing, if they want to stop this thing or show they\'re serious?..protest in front of those record labels that promote this stuff. imus was wrong and he should be fired, that said tho, black folk need to take some heat for not having no respect and just bein plain backwards on this altogether...when you have video\'s that\'s basically havin\' rappers callin black women those names, and everybody is ok with it,...on top of that these videos are bein\' broadcast all over the world, then when a white person says something,..s**t hits the fan?...people get a certain impression of us when they see that stuff...and it\'s all negative.....once we get back some of that self-respect,THEN we can come at people like imus and others in full force, without bein\' hypocritical about it....



"Mocking how I talk or how I dress"

^^^your words not mine, and i hardly call that bein discrimnated against, now maybe some white folk might be discrimnated against if a company needs to meet it\'s quota for minorities, but let\'s be real, when you work for any major corporation, the black folk that make up any organization is barely 1 percent, and if it wasn\'t for quota\'s and affirmative action, those companies would hire even less minorities....i don\'t think any white person can tell me that they have been stopped by the cops for "driving while white"....black folk deal with that aspect of discrimnation on a daily basis and that is something i know white folk don\'t have to experience....

that reverse discrimination i mentioned against whites is something that i\'am against as well....hire that minority for his skills and not because you need to meet some "quota"....and if that other person has a stronger professional experience, and if he happens to be white,...hire him...

Just because we haven\'t been made to sit on the back of the bus does not mean we have not experience discrimination and racism. I live in a very nice community. I drive a decent car and I have a very good job. I have the police called on me while I do my job just because the of the color of my skin. When there are white guys doing the same job I am doing dressed in jeans and pony tails but they see me and call the police. There is 7-eleven not to far from me and everytime I went in there I was given a hard time by the manager. She would always follow me around or gave me hassels for no reason. Finally I got upset with her and called the store owners and voiced my opinions about the manager.

I mean they have no idea how it feels.  I get racial discriminated on my job all the time just because I am black and it ain\'t gone stop. I am amazed how white people always try and compare their struggles to that of blacks. When there is no connection between the two. They just don\'t get it.

[clips]

"I\'ve walked through black neighborhoods where I had to keep my head down and get the hell out of there. Kids up to no good, you know? But that\'s another thread."


tru..no doubt...i don\'t have to tell how rough it was when i used to live in newark,nj...that said tho, every ethnic group has it\'s problems, down here in quiet suburbia there have been at least three to four stories in the past three weeks, of kids comin to school with home-made bombs or kids goin\' around setting homes on fire and kids comin\' to school with handguns and grenades...and y\'know what? guess what color that these kids that was up to no good in THEIR neighborhood were?....yep, snowwhite!...so yea that is another thread altogether....


as far as imus goes, i guess i\'ll have to respectively disagree with you on this one,..i\'ve mentioned more than once already that black folk need to take responsibility for some of this, but this guy meant it in a insulting manner, whether he was jokin\' or not...heh i like that last touch with the black chic in the pic...heh funny..and yes discrimination is discrimination no-matter how you look at it,..but because of my personal experience i still gotta say on some level that black folk will always be discrimnated against more than average....

I\'ve walked through black neighborhoods where I had to keep my head down and get the hell out of there. Kids up to no good, you know? But that\'s another thread.
 
And regardless, Imus calling those women nappy haired is like Imus calling me wavy haired.
 
Grounds for termination!
 
Give me a break.
 
I don\'t intend to open your eyes to the reality of the world beyond your neighborhood or anything, I\'m just defending Imus\'s right to say what he\'s said.
 
Even if I thought what he said was stupid, he had the right to say it.
 
And to be fair:
 
- Cite This Source

nap·py 1 (nāp\'ē) Pronunciation Key adj. nap·pi·er, nap·pi·est [LIST=1] Having a nap; fuzzy. Kinky; frizzy.

- Cite This Source
nappy (adj.)
"downy," 1499, from nap (n.). Meaning "fuzzy, kinky," used in colloquial or derogatory ref. to the hair of black people, is from 1950.
 
 
- Cite This Source

nappy
adjective
1.	(of hair) in small tight curls

 
 
 
 
A few different source\'s definitions, one of which acknowledges that nappy can be considered derogatory.
 

 
By the way, the guy on the left here has nappy hair. Am I racist?
 

 
This dog has nappy hair. Am I racist now?
 

 
This gir---- uh oh! What have I done?!?!
 

 
No such thing, it\'s just discrimination. As you can see, white people can be discriminated against, too. So can women. And Indians. And Asians. And teenagers. And the Irish. And gays. And Jewish people. And people who work in the mall food court.
 
Regardless, that\'s not what this is about.
 
You guys keep branching out to bigger issues because you know that this Imus thing is retarded.
 
Oh, retards can also be discriminated against.

Yeah he has the right to say it at home in the privacy of his friends and family. But he should not take those kind of views on a federal regulated radio and tv show.

[clips]

Yeah he has the right to say it at home in the privacy of his friends and family. But he should not take those kind of views on a federal regulated radio and tv show.

exactly...or he should be prepared to face the consequences...

It\'s just unfortunate that in a land of free speech, that he runs into those consequences.
 
Americans are allowed to be insulting. Just ask the French. We all hate them.

[Jumpman]

Qud, I get discriminated against a lot so don\'t say white people don\'t know what its like. I get discriminated against as soon as people find out I\'m atheist. I get a lot of ridicule for it. The worst feeling is getting discriminated against by your own family. I\'m the only one in my religious family who doesn\'t believe in God. Tell me how it feels to be at a funeral and have your mom tell relatives you never met that I don\'t believe in God. I\'ll tell you it doesn\'t feel good.

They probably don`t like you because you`re stupid actually.

Now mind you back then my 240 was only a year old, ground effects kit all around the car and a nice set of wheels..the whole 9...so he pulls me over...ask\'s who\'s car is this..i told him it was mine, i gave him my papers, everything was legit, then he goes over to her side, and asks her.."are you with him?"....she told him that she was...he then proceeded to ask her, "are you here against your will?"....at this point she was startin to get a bit upset cause she knew where this was goin\'....the police officer then asked her to step out so he could talk to her,...what these cops didn\'t know was that her father was the chief of police at the time, and she was yellin at these cops for the way we were bein treated...meanwhile 3 more cop cars arrive on the scene...and the one cop is tryin to calm her down, because he constantly kept asking her did i bring her against her will and s**t like that....as if i was kidnappin\' her or some s**t.

When I was younger my parents house got broken into.  Called the cops, detective came, did all that jazz.  Police refused to investigate because they assumed I had or one of my friends had broken into the house.  The only evidence they had to support that was that I was a teenager and, "teenagers do these things."

What makes my story any different than yours?  I was discriminated against based on my age.  They used commonly held stereotypes to make false assumptions.  Along the same line, I\'ve had managers follow me around and hassel me in drug marts when I was younger too.  How dare they, shame on them, those racist pricks....oh wait, i\'m white, I guess its ok then.  Damn teenagers up to their no good hijinks.

You see, sometimes people get so blinded by their own plights that they fail to realize shit happens to EVERYONE and pulling the, "you just don\'t understand" card makes you sound selfish.  You don\'t want us to understand.  You\'d rather be able to play that card to get what you want and sound like a victim.  Is there racism out there?  Hell yes, but christ, everyone has dealt with some sort of discrimination, its human nature.

Yes, I do realize my stories pale in comparison to some of really bad shit that goes on, but do you honestly believe that someones skin color determines how much shit gets thrown at them in life?  If you really think that, you are even more blind than I thought.

[CHIZZY]

*serious mode*what everybody fails to realize is that he did not say one thing about the other team...who were predominantly white....so what if these rutgers players look a certain way...alot of the women who ply professional basketball black or white look kinda "butch" to some extent, the point here is that he specifically directed his view on the rutgers team,...some say howard stern does this as well?..i can honestly say from the shows i\'ve heard and seen that he does it in a way that\'s lighthearted and funny....he\'ll say somethin\' like "wow i better not say that N word or  50 cent or jay-z will come up here and kick my ass"

and while alot of black folk or rappers still say hoes and bitches,...that does not mean all black folk are sayin\' it, and even if they are that doesn\'t make it right...

if that\'s the case, they had no excuse for losing.

[Titan]

I have an interesting story hearing about following in stores. A close friend of mine from high school worked at a Radio Shack and the managers told him to look out for black people in the store and follow them if need be. I thought it was wrong to stereotype but he was also explaining how they had just been robbed by a group of black teens too. Paranoia at its best.

[clips]

You see, sometimes people get so blinded by their own plights that they fail to realize shit happens to EVERYONE and pulling the, "you just don\'t understand" card makes you sound selfish.  You don\'t want us to understand.  You\'d rather be able to play that card to get what you want and sound like a victim.  Is there racism out there?  Hell yes, but christ, everyone has dealt with some sort of discrimination, its human nature.

Yes, I do realize my stories pale in comparison to some of really bad shit that goes on, but do you honestly believe that someones skin color determines how much shit gets thrown at them in life?  If you really think that, you are even more blind than I thought.

i was with you a bit in a sense that all discrimination is the same no-matter what it is..color age etc....my thing is that i\'ve never pulled that "you don\'t understand card to get what i want"....it\'s just that, yea we\'ve all been treated unfairly at some point and time just for being teenagers, but again you\'ve never been pulled over soley for the color of your skin...there\'s just no other way to put it....as far as me pulling a "woe is me"...you couldn\'t be farther from the truth...i don\'t want to make my story sound like a fairy tale,...but i grew up in the projects of newark,nj....graduated high school went to a 1 year technical school....raised my kids in the projects and busted my ass to get them out of that situation, *a scenario where you heard gunshots on the reg, especially in the summertime* moved to piscataway nj...
saved my money and bought a brand new crib in georgia and i have three vehicles in good condition.....and i did that by myself...

i hardly call that "me playin\' that card and sounding like a victim".....i was in a situation and did something about it...

[Titan]

New Jersey State Police are notorious for their racial discrimination. Most people I see pulled over on the highways are black. My roommate wants to be a state policeman and he\'s like that now. I still can\'t see how people can hate someone based on race. I admit I make racial jokes but I make fun of everyone. But when it all comes down to it, I have friends at school who are white and black. I like them based on who they are, not the color of their skin. I think its ignorant to do that. My grandfather does that and talks mad shit about black people and I don\'t see why.