thoughts on imus?....

[clips]

New Jersey State Police are notorious for their racial discrimination. Most people I see pulled over on the highways are black. My roommate wants to be a state policeman and he\'s like that now. I still can\'t see how people can hate someone based on race. I admit I make racial jokes but I make fun of everyone. But when it all comes down to it, I have friends at school who are white and black. I like them based on who they are, not the color of their skin. I think its ignorant to do that. My grandfather does that and talks mad shit about black people and I don\'t see why.

finally...titan gets it,...and like i stated earlier we all are gulity of the racial stuff, but it\'s funny and not offensive or hateful...me personally i know i can hang out with anybody...white black purple whatever....i don\'t judge people based on color, there are two groups of people in this world,..good and bad..no-matter what color you are if you do somethin\' bad you deserved to be punished...it\'s just in these times of racial incidences is when we start to seperate ourselves, which is kinda unfortunate in a sense that you truly see that on some fronts we still have some ways to go as far as race relations and tolerance are concerned,..but it also opens the path for honest and open-ended discussions such as these...

i was with you a bit in a sense that all discrimination is the same no-matter what it is..color age etc....my thing is that i\'ve never pulled that "you don\'t understand card to get what i want"....it\'s just that, yea we\'ve all been treated unfairly at some point and time just for being teenagers, but again you\'ve never been pulled over soley for the color of your skin...there\'s just no other way to put it....as far as me pulling a "woe is me"...you couldn\'t be farther from the truth...i don\'t want to make my story sound like a fairy tale,...but i grew up in the projects of newark,nj....graduated high school went to a 1 year technical school....raised my kids in the projects and busted my ass to get them out of that situation, *a scenario where you heard gunshots on the reg, especially in the summertime* moved to piscataway nj...
saved my money and bought a brand new crib in georgia and i have three vehicles in good condition.....and i did that by myself...

i hardly call that "me playin\' that card and sounding like a victim".....i was in a situation and did something about it...

Most of that was geared towards Quddus.  Clips, you don\'t come off as an ass when you talk about this and I have much respect for that.

As far as the, but again you\'ve never been pulled over soley for the color of your skin.  We\'re just going to have different view points on this one.  People get singled out based soley on many attributes, I don\'t see it as being any different.  They are all out of our control.  It just so happens that in your case, there is a lot more negative, brutal history behind it, but most of it is just that, history.  You really don\'t hear that many Jews going, "you just don\'t understand about the holocaust.  You wouldn\'t understand it to be discriminated against based on your religious views."  Its the past, it needs to be remembered so its not repeated but it doesn\'t need to be thrown in the face of national discussion every time an anti-semetic word is uttered.

If it weren\'t for clips, I would hate all black people. ;]
 
Nappy headed homie?

[clips]

Most of that was geared towards Quddus.  Clips, you don\'t come off as an ass when you talk about this and I have much respect for that.

As far as the, but again you\'ve never been pulled over soley for the color of your skin.  We\'re just going to have different view points on this one.  People get singled out based soley on many attributes, I don\'t see it as being any different.  They are all out of our control.  It just so happens that in your case, there is a lot more negative, brutal history behind it, but most of it is just that, history.  You really don\'t hear that many Jews going, "you just don\'t understand about the holocaust.  You wouldn\'t understand it to be discriminated against based on your religious views."  Its the past, it needs to be remembered so its not repeated but it doesn\'t need to be thrown in the face of national discussion every time an anti-semetic word is uttered.

agreed.....to be fair tho the holocaust was a one time event for the jews while slavery was what 600 - 800 years strong?....still both were a tragedy in history in general and we should all strive to be better overall human beings in general...but you\'re right we shouldn\'t forget the past, but we should also try not to live in the past....times have changed and we\'ve really made some strides as far as race relations are concerned....afri. americans in this day and age are doin things that would be unheard of in the 50\'s and sixties....and like i\'ve stated before, alot of the black youth take for granted what they have today....alot of the afri americans back during the civil rights movement and before went through alot of s**t so they can have and do the things they are doin today....sadly alot of them really don\'t have a clue....oh and Eik...i luv you too...

[Evi]

i was with you a bit in a sense that all discrimination is the same no-matter what it is..color age etc....my thing is that i\'ve never pulled that "you don\'t understand card to get what i want"....it\'s just that, yea we\'ve all been treated unfairly at some point and time just for being teenagers, but again you\'ve never been pulled over soley for the color of your skin...there\'s just no other way to put it....as far as me pulling a "woe is me"...you couldn\'t be farther from the truth...i don\'t want to make my story sound like a fairy tale,...but i grew up in the projects of newark,nj....graduated high school went to a 1 year technical school....raised my kids in the projects and busted my ass to get them out of that situation, *a scenario where you heard gunshots on the reg, especially in the summertime* moved to piscataway nj...
saved my money and bought a brand new crib in georgia and i have three vehicles in good condition.....and i did that by myself...

i hardly call that "me playin\' that card and sounding like a victim".....i was in a situation and did something about it...

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Exactly, man. But "being pulled over just because of the color of your skin" can still be applied to things other than race. Just getting your ass kicked for not being tall or just being shoved in a locker for looking like a dork or all kinds of stupid crap. People can be real A-holes, but that\'s life. Whether there is history tied to the reasoning why people act so stupid and ignorant, it\'s still all the same to me. Racism, prejudice, stereotypes...all of those things bug the crap out of me. Even if something has nothing to do with me, and someone says something racist or prejudiced, it still bugs. Everyone\'s the same inside. How someone acts, looks, whatever...none of that should matter. Human beings may be the most advanced civilization-wise, but I am starting to seriously doubt that we are the most intelligent creatures on the planet. People can be outright freaking vicious. I try and not make enemires in life and I just think everyone should be able to get along. But unfortunately, I don\'t think a world like that will ever come to be. Just try to do the best with what you got and always move forward, never back. You took your situation and did something about it...for yourself...and to give your kids a better future. A lot of people will never grow the balls to do something like that and they\'d rather blame everything else for their lack of motivation to change. "Change the things we can, accept the things we cannot, and have the wisdom to know the difference."

Oh and I know exactly what you mean about the being pulled over thing. My cousin is Filipino (his dad is Filipino and his mom is white) and he came up here for Thanksgiving and freaking got arrested. When they pulled him over, they didn\'t believe him when he told them that she was his mom. They kept making all these racist comments about Mexicans (assuming he was) even though he\'s Filipino. He ended up being in jail for a few days before going home. Freaking stupid. Meh...

to be fair tho the holocaust was a one time event for the jews

Like a Woodstock or something.

[clips]

Like a Woodstock or something.

your sarcasm is priceless...right up there with mm...

clips...

You\'re right that Sharpton and the rest of the Wack Packers should be protesting rappers for making words like "ho", "nigga", etc such common use...

But, think about this...

If black people didn\'t commit crimes, there would be no stereotype/racism against them...

So maybe, black people should be protesting black people...

Like Chris Rock said: "I love black people but I hate niggers"

That\'s not really right, Ash.  White people commit crimes too, but we don\'t have the stereotype.
 
We have all the serial killers, for instance.

I was just using black people as an example since this thread is about them...

Not labelling all black people as criminals...

Instead of blaming the white man or whatever race, how about getting your own people to stop promoting the stereotype?

Tell the Latinos to stop dealing drugs, getting pregnant, and hopping fences...
Tell the blacks to stop robbing, get off welfare, and get at least a HS education...
Tell the Asians to learn English and get a real green card...

Stereotypes didn\'t just suddenly appear...

Then someone should wonder why they do these from the beginning.

Wha...???

[Evi]

I was just using black people as an example since this thread is about them...

Not labelling all black people as criminals...

Instead of blaming the white man or whatever race, how about getting your own people to stop promoting the stereotype?

Tell the Latinos to stop dealing drugs, getting pregnant, and hopping fences...
Tell the blacks to stop robbing, get off welfare, and get at least a HS education...
Tell the Asians to learn English and get a real green card...

Stereotypes didn\'t just suddenly appear...

Are you friggin\' kidding?

Wha...???

I think Uni means that perhaps you (in a broad sense) should look at the reasons why these stereotypes are sometimes right.

[Jumpman]

I love you more than black people don\'t tip.