X-Box X-ageratted?

X - B O X

- Microsoft has revised the specification of their X-Box console, the speed of the graphic processor has been lowered from 300 MHz to 250 MHz. The 3D performance of the X-Box is now estimated at 300 millions per second, however, the amount is reduced by more than half to 125 millions per second when  texture mapping and shadings are used. Microsoft has not announced the performance figure when all the features are turned on.

Source: http://come.to/magicbox

Now, I\'m not even going to debate tech specs in anyway shape, or form on this board.  However, What exactly does all this mean?  300 million to 125 million... sounds like a big hit before graphical enhancements and such.  I just wanna know exactly what this means to people who are looking into getting an X-Box.

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Not a thing. I\'ll still get one. I could care less about graphics. Sure, they was amazing when we first entered the 32 bit era. But, now, I just want gameplay. And, I want games. So, I\'ll buy each console, that way I don\'t miss any \'big titles\' that may come out.

Now, I\'m not even going to debate tech specs in anyway shape, or form on this board. However, What exactly does all this mean?

Doesn\'t mean anything, the 125 Million PPS is just as bullsh[/i]it as the 300 Million PPS. Expect 10-15 Million PPS Max in first Gen X-Box games.

You just want gameplay that\'s nice..By the what is your job again?? You just buy every system and games like it don\'t matter.  man are you rich or something.  Maybe you should just enjoy your Psx2.

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Originally posted by Coyote_1
You just want gameplay that\'s nice..By the what is your job again?? You just buy every system and games like it don\'t matter.  man are you rich or something.  Maybe you should just enjoy your Psx2.

Why should I just enjoy my PS2, when I can get the other systems? I\'m not rich. But I can afford my hobby. I think you\'ll find there is quite a few people on this forum who will buy each console or at least another one.

heh.. You can just label us \'hardcore\'.
(Joking!)

And for the record; I\'d sell my blood for a new system, if that was required for the extra money!

it doesn\'t matter to me either,but all this news of Xbox changes (no built-in dvd,now this lower polygon count..) is kind of disturbing,makes you wonder if the system is all that it is cracked up to be..? funny how it was being touted (by most Xbox fans) as the system to dethrone PS2 with all the same features,but now it looks to be more in competition with Game cube now,seems they (MS) are a bit confused which direction to go in?!

GC does 8 layer effects in ONE pase while xbox only does 4...that right there tells you xbox is not god in a box and that GC will be every bit as powerfull as the xbox and even more....PS2 with enough time WILL get results that look just as good as GC and xbox games(i want to see xbox beat GT3 and MGS2 graphics)....

i really don\'t give a **** about the xbox because it has NOTHING that PS2 or GC already have.

Got a link for that information Nplayer?

Originally posted by Ryu

X - B O X

- Microsoft has revised the specification of their X-Box console, the speed of the graphic processor has been lowered from 300 MHz to 250 MHz. The 3D performance of the X-Box is now estimated at 300 millions per second, however, the amount is reduced by more than half to 125 millions per second when  texture mapping and shadings are used. Microsoft has not announced the performance figure when all the features are turned on.

Source: http://come.to/magicbox

Now, I\'m not even going to debate tech specs in anyway shape, or form on this board.  However, What exactly does all this mean?  300 million to 125 million... sounds like a big hit before graphical enhancements and such.  I just wanna know exactly what this means to people who are looking into getting an X-Box. [/B]

Ryu, you are a little confused.  First of all, the 250 MHZ NV2A GPU was confirmed, not dropped.  It was estimated that the NV2A 300 MHz processor could do 300 million pps (w/no effects on).  Now with the FINALIZED 250 MHz processor, it can do 250 million pps (w/no effects on).  Of course as we all know 66mpps, 250mpps or 300mpps means nothing b/c it\'s not in game numbers.  There is a very interesting article called Inside Xbox Graphics by Michael Abrash which gives just how powerful the NV2A is at the 250 MHz speed.  It\'s an interesting read and the article gives you some perspective at just how powerful the NV2A GPU is going to be.  You might not like MS, but you can\'t deny what Nvidia can do.

[Edited by AVG25 on 12-26-2000 at 11:16 PM]

I WILL BUY IT BECAUSE IM A HARDCORE GAMER

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Ya know...Microsoft is a big load of crap. They lie like there\'s no tomorrow and they constantly make empty promises. They\'re headed by a multi-billionare with a mediocre understanding of the Operating System...and even Bill Gates is quoted as saying "Windows is crap." Hell, Nvidia hasn\'t even developed the chip yet and they\'re already giving out specifications of the systems performance. I would really like to see them pull off 1.2 Trillion Flops for the Xbox. I hate Bill Gates, I really do.

Ryu, you are a little confused. First of all, the 250 MHZ NV2A GPU was confirmed, not dropped. It was estimated that the NV2A 300 MHz processor could do 300 million pps (w/no effects on). Now with the FINALIZED 250 MHz processor, it can do 250 million pps (w/no effects on). Of course as we all know 66mpps, 250mpps or 300mpps means nothing b/c it\'s not in game numbers. There is a very interesting article called Inside Xbox Graphics by Michael Abrash which gives just how powerful the NV2A is at the 250 MHz speed. It\'s an interesting read and the article gives you some perspective at just how powerful the NV2A GPU is going to be. You might not like MS, but you can\'t deny what Nvidia can do.

I don\'t care how powerful the chip is.  The fact that I am trying to clarify here is that MS said 300 million, now that number is changed to much less then what was stated before.  What the chip CAN do (theoretically since we haven\'t seen it in action yet on ANY game) is irrelevent to the numbers MS has put out both times.  As I said, I don\'t want to debate specs, but fact is, anyone can theorize anything (just like how people theorize the winners of this console war) but so far, just as the console war theories, there is no proof to backup either statement, that is to say, until we actually see some in-game footage and tech demos just dont count.

While I agree with you for yhe most part, you shouldn\'t say "They\'re headed by a multi-billionare with a mediocre understanding of the Operating System", you do realise Bill Gates has been a massive influence on the direction computing has taken over the past few decades, hell the man helped design the entire BASIC computer programming language in the 70\'s.

Comments like this sort of annoy me. Simply because the man has a lot of money he\'s jealously looked upon as a stupid multi billionaire with a mediocre understanding of the Operating System he helped design being the Chief Software Engineer at Microsoft.

Bill Gates enjoys the position he is in today because the man had a vision that the common man lacks, damn you probably watch the WWF and look upon Vince McMahon in the same light, an evil multi-Billionaire because you believe the act he portrays on TV, another man with great vision.

[Evi]

Yeah...I\'m getting sick of hearing things like..."This is what we think the games will look like"...

Pffffft...that\'s stupid...:sconf: