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« Reply #360 on: March 01, 2002, 10:50:30 PM »
I still can\'t believe this thread is going on. I only posted a slightly funny observastion that some ppl took wayyyy outta context. O well, its been pretty good reading after all. Im proud to be a member here after such response\'s. Kudo\'s to all who have participated!!!
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« Reply #361 on: March 02, 2002, 04:54:48 AM »
Just so everyone knows this thread cannot take much more.

It\'s going to end up like the countdown thread from over a year ago.  Eventually it will stop going to the top and it will die.  This is just a warning for those who don\'t remember the ill fate of the countdown thread.
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« Reply #362 on: March 02, 2002, 06:23:24 AM »
Religion = the root of all that\'s evil

End of discussion.

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« Reply #363 on: March 02, 2002, 10:11:13 AM »
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
Just so everyone knows this thread cannot take much more.

It\'s going to end up like the countdown thread from over a year ago.  Eventually it will stop going to the top and it will die.  This is just a warning for those who don\'t remember the ill fate of the countdown thread.

The countdown thread going down the crapper was due to a server/forum change, not due to its size.  The new forums were a little unstable and couldn\'t handle the huge thread like the old forum could.  But the forums we have now shouldn\'t have a problem with a thread of that magnitude.  I think even if this thread did get up to 1000 posts, it would still be fine (although it will probably be locked before then. ;))

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Religion = the root of all that\'s evil

End of discussion.

Wow, that\'s a nice opinion you\'ve got there.  Do you mind telling us why?
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« Reply #364 on: March 02, 2002, 12:25:36 PM »
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Originally posted by JP
Religion = the root of all that\'s evil

End of discussion.


I agree with Fist..why not add some substance to your opinion. Thats just like if you were interested in a ps2 game and someone said it sucked, wouldnt you want to kow why?
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« Reply #365 on: March 02, 2002, 01:59:37 PM »
Well.....I only read about the first 5 posts and everyone was arguing why church is on Sun. instead of SAT. Well..... to answer you Sun. is the holy day. Why? I dont know it just is doesnt have to do with god resting.....or what day of the week it is. It\'s just the way it is. Plus in my town, our church holds mass services at 5 pm Sat. and 9 am+11 am on Sun.
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« Reply #366 on: March 02, 2002, 02:48:33 PM »
Church is for suckers.

The bible is supposed to be read as a work of fiction.
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« Reply #367 on: March 04, 2002, 12:13:09 PM »
Troglodyte, are you going to tell us about the redcliffs?  I\'ve tried looking for information about it on the internet, but I can only find sites that don\'t really say what it is and sites that refer to the "Christchurch" in Australia.  I am really interested in how this story of yours has any relevance to the Mormons.
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« Reply #368 on: March 04, 2002, 01:44:43 PM »
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Originally posted by IronFist

Wow, that\'s a nice opinion you\'ve got there.  Do you mind telling us why?


Simple. JP is an ignorant person who believes in his opinion and his alone. He is not open to new ideas, and he is a conservative *****.

But he\'s still cool, yeah, sure :)

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« Reply #369 on: March 04, 2002, 03:54:35 PM »
Alrighty, RedCliffs.  I have a friend who\'s parents sent her Brother to this Mormon "reform" program in the Redcliffs. . . the program may be under another name, but most refer it as the "Redcliffs," and you\'ll know why soon enough.

So this is for kids that get kicked out of school and what-not, bad kids all around.  Parents send their kids for some tough Mormon love, but my parents didn\'t think it would be this tough.

The guy was with a group of 7 other kids, 14-or-so.   They were left out in the desert of the RedCliffs for six weeks with the bare-minimum, and a "guide" of sorts, to give them spiritual and physical guidance.

They earned points, the first thing you did was learn how to hunt your own food.  If you couldn\'t catch anything. . . you didn\'t eat.

After earning enough points, you earn some SHOES!  It takes about a week before you earn freakin\' shoes. . .  in the desert!

For six weeks they lived off the land.  No showers, no processed food, nothing.

They made them run around mountains and such.

On the last day they had to do a "Three peak run."  At the end there was a red ribbon, with their parents waiting.  My friend said that he crossed the finnish line absolutly filthy, six weeks of desert grime in his hair.

After he got home and showered off, the first thing he wasnted to do was go to a super market to just "look at the food."  And that\'s what they did.  He cried, having seen so much food that he couldn\'t have for 6 weeks of feeding off of wild hares and lizards.

When he was sitting at home, he kept on jerking his head whenever a bird would fly by the window.  He was totally programmed for the hunt-and-kill.

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« Reply #370 on: March 04, 2002, 06:25:23 PM »
or sounds like BS to me.

that is something completely anti-mormon and anti-legal.

I am sorry, but I am gonna have to go ahead and not believe you on this one.


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« Reply #371 on: March 04, 2002, 09:04:56 PM »
Our church doesn\'t offer, and definitely does not endorse programs like that.  It\'s BS.

I really think details about this program have been lost during transition of the story.  You\'ve played that "telephone" game where one person whispers a sentence into someone\'s ear, then that person does the same to the next person, and by the time it gets around the room it\'s usually completely different than the original sentence, haven\'t you?  Have you heard the story straight from the horses mouth?  And if so, are you sure he was telling you the full truth?

BTW, where does this reform program take place?
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« Reply #372 on: March 04, 2002, 09:14:17 PM »
Straight from the brother\'s sister.  She was there when he crossed the finish line.  I talked to her in person at a dinner party.

You\'ll have to pardon me, but I\'m going to believe my friend with the Mormon parents, rather than the faceless names I see here, that throughout this thread have contradicted the beliefs of the Mormons I see face-to-face.

The reform takes place in the RedCliffs, Utah.
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« Reply #373 on: March 04, 2002, 11:04:48 PM »
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You\'ll have to pardon me, but I\'m going to believe my friend with the Mormon parents, rather than the faceless names I see here, that throughout this thread have contradicted the beliefs of the Mormons I see face-to-face.

Oh, these are the same people who said the differences in the Bibles were just a preference thing?  Now things are starting to make sense...


I have searched and searched for information about this reform program in Red Cliffs, Utah, and can only find recreational sites about it.  I will keep my eyes and ears open for any info about this, but as of right now, I really doubt anything of this nature would be endorsed by the LDS church.
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« Reply #374 on: March 05, 2002, 09:26:37 AM »
Let\'s just say this IS real, which I still do not believe it is.

Why does it have to be a \'Mormon" reform camp? Why can\'t it just be a reform camp in which some Mormons participate? It seems like everything some Joe Shmoe Mormon does strange is turned into a "mormon practice".

BTW, if this is the same friend who believes the Bible\'s different versions are by preference then they are either pulling your leg, EXTREMELY new converts, or are completely ignorant of what the church teaches them.

This is extremely sketchy to me, as no LDS ward or stake would condone the practice of this, that is unless we are talking about southern Utah where the polygamists live, which they claim to be Mormons, even though they have been excommunicated or were never LDS in the first place. In that case, these supposed mormons don\'t know what is right or what is wrong, as they have no divine revelation to guide them, nor the Holy Ghost.

still sounds like BS to me.


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