Could X-box be qualified as the one of the biggest dissapointments in the 21st cent..

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
XBox is overpriced, even though it offers:

BBA
Hard Drive
4 controller ports
updated graphics.

for the same price as PS2. old hardware. 2 ports, needs memory cards, etc, etc, etc.

Halo has many great titles, IMO. People must be forgetting Rallisport Challenge, GUNVALKYRIE, JSRF, NBA2K2 (best version of it), Halo, Munch (has awards for it\'s excellent AI), etc.


Quit hating. Why do people ***** about XBox when GC could easily be considered a much bigger waste of time in the states. I mean, it has 2 titles that are exclusive to the system that are truly great. The system right now is worthless and will collect dust unless you are really desperate to play Bond, or **** like that.

Whatever. Haters. XBox will have the most immersive Winter. Project Ego, Panzer O, and Shenmue II.

Who needs another console after these games, not even counting the network.


Eric Jacob

AMAN:bounce:

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Why do people ***** about XBox when GC could easily be considered a much bigger waste of time in the states. I mean, it has 2 titles that are exclusive to the system that are truly great

"it has 2 titles that are exlusive to the system that are truly great"

Sound familiar? :rolleyes:

*cough*M$*cough*
(Except X-box doesn\'t even have 2 good exclusive titles)

Not the point.


I\'m bashing MS for it\'s arrival in the console market. They made a lot of mistakes already, and it\'s showing. First their failure to successfully expand their market over seas and make revenue. Then they finally cut prices, but they make Xbox\'s bundled with games, so the price is still high. Then we see huge money losses, and more rats jumping ship.

Nintendo bashing was back in the N64 days, I believe we were past the 64-bit-ness weren\'t we? No need mocking a system that\'s already in it\'s casket :rolleyes:

yeah, i already stated i like the xbox and it has hella potential, but thats just it.... potential.  

with corporate suits jumping ship every other day, and exclusives dropping to other consoles at an even faster rate.

i dont hate the xbox, nor do i hate billy gates, or even m$

i merely take great pleaseure in seeing m$ suffer.


my outlook for the gaming world for the next 5 years

sony dominating, there\'s no stopping them
nintendo in 2nd place, better then m$, no?
xbox in 3rd, or abandoned [god forbid this happen, i will have a frickin field day on the zealots, BWUHAHAHAHA!  oops... sorry]


im sure steven jobs and lawrence ellison would stand behind me on this one

Originally posted by jm
Not the point.


I\'m bashing MS for it\'s arrival in the console market. They made a lot of mistakes already, and it\'s showing. First their failure to successfully expand their market over seas and make revenue. Then they finally cut prices, but they make Xbox\'s bundled with games, so the price is still high. Then we see huge money losses, and more rats jumping ship.
 

Maybe if you thoughtout what your saying then it would make more sense. First of xbox didn\'t launch no more than the cost of ps2 when it launched. Secondly your getting a lot more in xbox. Finally if you don\'t want the console then don\'t buy it, but don\'t sit around and mindless bash thats stupid.

no, thats entertainment

I can\'t help but find the whole MS bashing phenomena thing interesting. If Whirlpool made a console and it was a well done I would be happy.

It\'s just weird to me.

Ace

too true. But you are not insecure of your current washing machine/videogame console. You don\'t say "There is a better product out, let\'s kill it with stupidity so I don\'t feel the need to buy it!!!"

"phew, now it is time for a nice long wank (turns on Golden Girls)"

GC Exclusive great titles:

SUper Monkey Ball
Smash Brothers (it is great, but I really dislike playing it)

I think those are something that nearly all people who have a GC can agree with.

other candidates are:

WR:BS, LM, etc. are all split between love and hate.

XBox has:
 the new king of rally racers (at least until SR3): RalliSport.
The king of fps\'s: Halo (don\'t ***** mm)

other candidates:

Project Gotham
GUNVALKYRIE
JSRF
Amped

Something else I have noticed: XBox ports most of the time have something special about them. Whether it be minor things like graphics, cool things like changeable soundtracks, or great things like added levels and characters. If XBox is just trying to be PS2, they are doing a better job then SOny is at it.


Eric Jacob

It\'s all a matter of opinion, really. There are over a million satisfied Xbox owners that don\'t see to realize any of the stuff you\'re arguing.. probably because they bought more than 2 Xbox games and had fun with every purchase.

Everybody has preferences, you can\'t please everybody with everything..

This explains why everybody rips on Nintendo, who is (combined)_ the most talented set of developers in the video game industry.. IMO. You don\'t like their particular style of game.. that\'s okay. But like Microsoft with their edgy, flashier games.. not everybody\'s going to like any particular product.

As for MS, I agree.. they\'ve made some big mistakes. What do I think they\'ve done wrong?

A. Being very superficial with Japanese gamers.

They had developers set up specifically to cater to Japanese gamers. How would you feel if somebody said this: Oh.. those Japanese people.. they\'ll buy anything quirky! That\'s basically what Microsoft said when they had "MS Japan" set up. The only Xbox games that sold decently in Japan were from Japanese developers.. but not MS Japan. Tecmo and Sega, my friends.. Tecmo and Sega.

B. Being very superficial with US gamers.

Well, more like "feeding on the mainstream". Microsoft\'s formula to success is "graphics and gameplay".. but unfortunately, at least half of the games they\'ve had available for the system lack solid gameplay. They have a lead on the GameCube in the US based almost totally on a small graphical advantage.. and PR bull***t! MS has enough cockiness to share some with Nintendo and Sony, too. They say they\'ve "talked with hardcore gamers" and "built this system for developers". Hardcore gamers told you to make this POS controller? I doubt it!

More like Seamus Blackley and his 3-year mission to make the most frustrating FPS game ever (that being Jurassic Park:Trespasser) even more frustrating with tougher controllers! Blah, I\'m almost rambling at this point.

Let\'s just say that they\'re superficial, trying to construct games using "formulas".

GOOD GRAPHICS +  SEXY/BADASS/EDGY CHARACTERS + A CONTROLLER THAT ONLY LUCIFER COULD HAVE DESIGNED + A VCR-SIZED CONSOLE THAT DOESN\'T ALLOW YOU TO "HIT THE METAL" EASILY = BEST CONSOLE EVER!

I like the controller. And showing that MS listens to it\'s fanbase, they gave people with smaller hands (or those who can\'t adapt from Sony\'s death grip controller from the last 7 years)  the new one.


Eric Jacob

eh... deja vu...

This is like a bad habit...

One person speaks an opinion and right away it turns into bias.  For heaven\'s sake, there\'s going to be bias no matter where you go, there is no real "unbiased" opinion.  If a console disapoints you, you are inclined to state your bad feelings about it.

The biggest disapointment of the 21st century thus far is this damn argument that X-Box was or was not a success.  You want my opinions, here they are:

• There is no way X-Box will amass a 20 million userbase in the same amount of time as PS2 did.
• Good games PS2 1st 6 months - SSX. DOA2:HC, Onimusha, Unreal Tournament, Madden, Kessen
• Good X-BOx games thus far... Halo, Halo, Halo, Halo, Halo, and Halo.
• Good Games only on X-Box - none
• X-Box is what we call flavor of the month.
• Damn thing wouldn\'t fit on my damn shelf!

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Those are my arguments against the box, not a complete failure, but a definite disapointment.

Can\'t this thread be something fun and new like, famous X-Box comebacks and excuses.

"just wait til (insert random game rumoured to be coming out from a vague and rather unlikely source) comes out"

"it\'s only been out 6 months"

(3 years later) -------> "it\'s only been out 42 months!"

Not to seem unfair, I\'m sure I could find some things to make fun of PS2 for, like it\'s two ports, or not being able to read burned games (yuk yuk)... but I\'m happy with PS2, and GCN as well, the GC is not overly exciting, but fairly consistent.

Well, that\'s my rant!  Wheeeeee... that was fun, we\'ll be back in another wee doing this again.

Halo is only on XBox. Not to say that you say that SSX, DOA2:HC, Madden, and Onimush when XBox has received better versions of all.

You is a HATER. Like I said before, there are many great games on XBox, some exclusive, some not. If you actually open your eyes, you will see that many of the games you love on PS2 are on and enhanced for XBox.



Eric Jacob

You mean GC is less exciting in and of the fact that there are less games (and less good games) on the system? No, TOBG, way to be consistent.



Eric Jacob

Did you also know the PC will be getting an improved ONLINE version of Halo... There goes that exclusive...

BTW, I want to know what games you can and will ONLY be able to play on X-Box...  I don\'t care if X-Box got a load of ports...

your entire statement is obiter dictum.

PC != console. Otherwise, GTA3 != exclusive. FFXI != exclusive. rinse and repeat.

Otherwise. Project Ego, BC, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Shenmue series (as far as we know), Gunvalkyrie, JSRF, DOA3, Unreal Championship, World Series Baseball, Rallisport, Doom 3 (remember, PC != console), Bungies secret project, Halo 2, etc.

What\'s that? is that backpedaling?


Eric Jacob