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[Jumpman]

UNICRON MADE A POOPY POST

ah how cute

Never as cute as you Jumpy

[Jumpman]

Don\'t you ever get tired of writing, "I know you are but what I am" comebacks?

[Titan]

What do you mean Germany still is in a way a very ethnic and xenophobic state and that if you are not ethnically German you are seen as inferior? Where did you get that impression from?? The Neo-nazis? I would disagree about this and I would agree about the periods during the WW2.

The Jews were indeed blamed, but there is some partial truth in their dislike for the Jewish. It was taken to the extreme though by the nationalsocialists and blamed the Jewish in general (the result of blind nationalism). Despite that the higher classes of the Jews werent always targeted. There were many mixed families of German-Jews with great economic and influential power. I guarantee you that you will find Germans today that opposed the Nazi regime do not deny the anti-semitism of the nationalsocialist party, and the millions of Jewish that were put into camps and died, but they will tell you exactly that. The elites of the German-Jewish especially those opposing communism were not targeted. The extermination was targeted towards the communist Jewish and political opponent Jewish. In contrast to the extermination the initial and general plan was to maintain the few powerful and get rid of the Jewish by deporting them (not by the best means ofocurse) by force outside Germany which resulted to the losses of fortunes and homes of the Jewish people. The Jewish internationally as naturally expected wouldnt of course accept this and they were expressing their anti-German tendencies (the Jewish were 100% excused for that). This was seen by the Nazi\'s as a possible future thread to Germany and they became more strict and extreme. They formed the concentration camps that forced them in extreme labor conditions and caused the deaths of many.

Germany is an ethnic state. Their nationalism was an ethnic nationalism. I said "in a way still" because I\'m not a 100% sure how ethnic they still feel but from what I researched on Germany (and other European nations) for a couple classes, they are still racist and very German ethnic driven and it has been that way since the times of Bismarck.

Mixed families were not common at all. Germans and Jews very very rarely interbreed (not the word but that\'s all I can think of right now at 2am). Germans have always been anti-semitic, especially back in the day. Germans at the time of the genocide didn\'t know but many didn\'t care, though many opposed but but did nothing or said nothing to stop it.

No shit Germans today that opposed to the Nazi regime will say it was anti-semitic. The entire Nazi movement, though it was more geared toward economic and political reform due to the failings of the Weimar Republic but a huge portion of their rhetoric was anti-semitic and taking advantage of the national sentiments against the German people.

I never said anything about neo-nazis. Don\'t know where you came up with that.

All Jews were targeted. No one was excluded so stop saying that. Hitler hated all Jews, especially the ones who were seen to have power. Hitler executed people and banned those from government for being suspected of having Jewish blood in them.

I wrote a 17 page paper on the rise of Nazism just a month ago and got an A on it. I did extensive research on the subject and especially focused on anti-semitism and citing extremely credible sources and even the source of the rhetoric, Hitlers Mein Kampf.

If you want to read about German anti-semitism in Germany\'s rise of nationalism and anti-semitism in Germany in general, I read this book called Nationalism: Five Roads to Modernity by Liah Greenfeld. She goes into anti-semitism and the role it had in shaping German identity through the age of nationalism and even in German folklore through the centuries.

Don\'t you ever get tired of writing, "I know you are but what I am" comebacks?

He\'s an idiot.
What do you expect?

Every time I picture him, I think of some 13 year old inbred, who rapes goats and thinks he is so intelligent. That\'s the only way I can explain his crappy ass posts.

[GmanJoe]

He believed Jews deserved it.

And it is not like they are innocent either.

Perhaps Unic admires those Nazi pigs.

Single greatest video.
Ever.

Fuckin\' love that song.

Germany is an ethnic state. Their nationalism was an ethnic nationalism. I said "in a way still" because I\'m not a 100% sure how ethnic they still feel but from what I researched on Germany (and other European nations) for a couple classes, they are still racist and very German ethnic driven and it has been that way since the times of Bismarck.

Mixed families were not common at all. Germans and Jews very very rarely interbreed (not the word but that\'s all I can think of right now at 2am). Germans have always been anti-semitic, especially back in the day. Germans at the time of the genocide didn\'t know but many didn\'t care, though many opposed but but did nothing or said nothing to stop it.

No shit Germans today that opposed to the Nazi regime will say it was anti-semitic. The entire Nazi movement, though it was more geared toward economic and political reform due to the failings of the Weimar Republic but a huge portion of their rhetoric was anti-semitic and taking advantage of the national sentiments against the German people.

I never said anything about neo-nazis. Don\'t know where you came up with that.

All Jews were targeted. No one was excluded so stop saying that. Hitler hated all Jews, especially the ones who were seen to have power. Hitler executed people and banned those from government for being suspected of having Jewish blood in them.

I wrote a 17 page paper on the rise of Nazism just a month ago and got an A on it. I did extensive research on the subject and especially focused on anti-semitism and citing extremely credible sources and even the source of the rhetoric, Hitlers Mein Kampf.

If you want to read about German anti-semitism in Germany\'s rise of nationalism and anti-semitism in Germany in general, I read this book called Nationalism: Five Roads to Modernity by Liah Greenfeld. She goes into anti-semitism and the role it had in shaping German identity through the age of nationalism and even in German folklore through the centuries.

"Racism" in Germany is as subjective as the "racism" in France. Your classes seem to be very absolute. The Germans today are embarrassed for the happenings of the WW2 and they themselves accuse any repeated tendencies today that were present during and before that era. Actually the German youth feel embarrassed and even inferiority complex towards other European ethnicities for what their previous generations have done. They were so much attacked and humiliated in terms of their national pride especially by the allies that it has caused a serious problem to them. No history book is going to teach you that.

It seems that your teachings about the anti-semitism in Germany that existed for a long time, has let you to see only one side of the coin and that it was an absolute spread idea in every German and the whole Germany itself. Mixed families were not uncommon. Despite the outbursts that occurred in various periods in history the Jewish have lived in Germany for centuries. There were many families between Germans and Jews, and some managed in the 20th century to even build huge fortunes. Into such an extend that rich Jewish families existed and with Germans working for them.

In regards to this: No shit Germans today that opposed to the Nazi regime will say it was anti-semitic. The entire Nazi movement, though it was more geared toward economic and political reform due to the failings of the Weimar Republic but a huge portion of their rhetoric was anti-semitic and taking advantage of the national sentiments against the German people.
There is nothing that contradicts what I said. I did not reject the existence of anti-semitism in any way. Thats why as I said they formed plans to get rid of the Jews by deporting them outside Germany by force. But the point of mine was that many Germans that will still tell you that there were some Jews that were NOT initially targeted despite that they were opposing the Nazi\'s and have seen the anti-semitism by first hand. I repeat initially and in bold because it is important and it seems it is constantly ignored in the discussion leading to a continuous loop!

I asked about the neo-Nazi\'s because I was extremely astonished that you view the Germans as racists, that consider other nations inferior. Its a different thing to say "racism exists in Germany" with "Germany is a racist nation".

As for Hitler banning everyone with a Jewish blood from political power, I ll note that Hitler was deliberately killing those that helped him rise in power, and used his mechanisms of propaganda to excuse their extermination in the same way Stalin was using his own mechanisms of propaganda to jail and extinguish his own claiming they were Trotsky spies, Fascists or traitors.

I do not question your knowledge on anti-semitism and the rise of the Nazi\'s but there is more into it.

[GmanJoe]

Unic, you goat rapist, can you tell my why you think the Jews were not innocent? sounds like you\'re saying they had it coming to them, you anti-semite you.

I d like to know how you read what isnt there.

YOU compared 20 million Russians to 6 million Jews...

The 6 million was a genocide, the 20 million was not...

If you weren\'t calling the 20m a genocide, then WHY did you compare them???

[Titan]

"Racism" in Germany is as subjective as the "racism" in France. Your classes seem to be very absolute. The Germans today are embarrassed for the happenings of the WW2 and they themselves accuse any repeated tendencies today that were present during and before that era. Actually the German youth feel embarrassed and even inferiority complex towards other European ethnicities for what their previous generations have done. They were so much attacked and humiliated in terms of their national pride especially by the allies that it has caused a serious problem to them. No history book is going to teach you that.

It seems that your teachings about the anti-semitism in Germany that existed for a long time, has let you to see only one side of the coin and that it was an absolute spread idea in every German and the whole Germany itself. Mixed families were not uncommon. Despite the outbursts that occurred in various periods in history the Jewish have lived in Germany for centuries. There were many families between Germans and Jews, and some managed in the 20th century to even build huge fortunes. Into such an extend that rich Jewish families existed and with Germans working for them.

In regards to this: No shit Germans today that opposed to the Nazi regime will say it was anti-semitic. The entire Nazi movement, though it was more geared toward economic and political reform due to the failings of the Weimar Republic but a huge portion of their rhetoric was anti-semitic and taking advantage of the national sentiments against the German people.
There is nothing that contradicts what I said. I did not reject the existence of anti-semitism in any way. Thats why as I said they formed plans to get rid of the Jews by deporting them outside Germany by force. But the point of mine was that many Germans that will still tell you that there were some Jews that were NOT initially targeted despite that they were opposing the Nazi\'s and have seen the anti-semitism by first hand. I repeat initially and in bold because it is important and it seems it is constantly ignored in the discussion leading to a continuous loop!

I asked about the neo-Nazi\'s because I was extremely astonished that you view the Germans as racists, that consider other nations inferior. Its a different thing to say "racism exists in Germany" with "Germany is a racist nation".

As for Hitler banning everyone with a Jewish blood from political power, I ll note that Hitler was deliberately killing those that helped him rise in power, and used his mechanisms of propaganda to excuse their extermination in the same way Stalin was using his own mechanisms of propaganda to jail and extinguish his own claiming they were Trotsky spies, Fascists or traitors.

I do not question your knowledge on anti-semitism and the rise of the Nazi\'s but there is more into it.

Maybe Germany isn\'t a racist nation now. I even admitted in my earlier posts that my knowledge on anti-semitism is on more modern history in Germany than postmodern. And saying that Germany today is ashamed of the Nazis is like saying Americans today are ashamed of slavery and the Trail of Tears. I\'m ashamed that this country treated blacks so horribly and justified it by stupid logic and excuses like their skulls are shaped differently therefore their inferior. I was merely making a point about modern Germany than postmodern and I\'m sure some anti-semitism and racism exists in the postmodern age. There is racism everywhere but from what I\'ve learned, many European countries are more racist. The two examples that my professors have cited the most were Italy and Germany. I never followed up on it (probably should) but I\'m just going on the knowledge I\'ve learned.

France is actually a fairly open state from what I know of. They basically say as long as you submit to everything French and embrace being French (fashion, beliefs, etc), you are French. That\'s why they are having so many problems with the Arab and Muslim immigrants because they want to keep their own identity and the French don\'t understand why. They think since they live in France, they need to embrace everything French.

YOU compared 20 million Russians to 6 million Jews...

The 6 million was a genocide, the 20 million was not...

If you weren\'t calling the 20m a genocide, then WHY did you compare them???

assume=make an ass out of you and me

Unic, you goat rapist, can you tell my why you think the Jews were not innocent? sounds like you\'re saying they had it coming to them, you anti-semite you.

See above.

Maybe Germany isn\'t a racist nation now. I even admitted in my earlier posts that my knowledge on anti-semitism is on more modern history in Germany than postmodern. And saying that Germany today is ashamed of the Nazis is like saying Americans today are ashamed of slavery and the Trail of Tears. I\'m ashamed that this country treated blacks so horribly and justified it by stupid logic and excuses like their skulls are shaped differently therefore their inferior. I was merely making a point about modern Germany than postmodern and I\'m sure some anti-semitism and racism exists in the postmodern age. There is racism everywhere but from what I\'ve learned, many European countries are more racist. The two examples that my professors have cited the most were Italy and Germany. I never followed up on it (probably should) but I\'m just going on the knowledge I\'ve learned.

France is actually a fairly open state from what I know of. They basically say as long as you submit to everything French and embrace being French (fashion, beliefs, etc), you are French. That\'s why they are having so many problems with the Arab and Muslim immigrants because they want to keep their own identity and the French don\'t understand why. They think since they live in France, they need to embrace everything French.

I ll have to agree with that there are some German areas (small) that still show signs of extreme nationalism and anti-simitism but it is far from being a racist nation. A half-German friend told me that racists are few there. Specifically the Germans dont feel just sorry. Italy is not a racist nation either. This is taken into a different context than being sorry about some "unfortunate" events. History is after them like a curse including all the biases imposed by the winners of war to serve their political interests of the time. Germany of the WW1 and WW2 as well as Italy due to Fascism yes. But this started to change after the war ended. It was just a phase of the times. It shouldnt be followed as a general characterization of these countries,

 I used to have a friend from France who told me a few things about the problems with Arabs/Muslim immigrants but cant remember. The problem hid other issues too I think. I am not sure if its because they dont understand Muslims. I suspect that it is the opposite. Lets take the scarf issue for example: The French government wanted to ban it because they did not want religious symbols/differences to be eminent between students. The second excuse for that was that most girls do not want to wear it but are forced by their families. By not having them banned, the girls would have worn them regardless of freedom of choice. Complicated matter with no rights or wrongs.

The problem with Europe isnt necessarily racism. It is different ways of living and culture which makes understanding, acceptance and communication a bit more complicated. I would never sacrifice culture for globalization though.

[GmanJoe]

Unic, you still haven\'t addressed that part where you said the Jews weren\'t innocent. Don\'t tell me to "read back" (which makes no sense anyway)

Unic, you still haven\'t addressed that part where you said the Jews weren\'t innocent. Don\'t tell me to "read back" (which makes no sense anyway)

see above=assume=make an ass out of you and me

read back=

but its served its purpose into seeing the Nazi\'s/Germans as the only monsters, and into ignoring other tragic losses, crimes and events and still does